Ask HN: Advice on starting a YouTube channel?

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1/20/1970
10 months ago
by mr_o47

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swighton

I used to be a full time dev / R&D engineer. Now I basically do the same thing on YouTube (youtube.com/stuffmadehere). The difference now is my R&D-ing is directed at early stage prototypes that I think are interesting / instructive, rather than what is best for an actual business, useful, or profitable.

Youtube is interesting because theres a constant source of numeric feedback on how you are doing (views / subscribers / watch time). Seeing these numbers change based on what you do can be incredibly addicting and it's very easy to accidentally connect your personal happiness to those numbers. This is great if they are going up, but if they aren't.... yeah. It's also easy to get into a situation where you lean into "what works" over and over until you find yourself doing stuff that you don't enjoy.

My advice would be to find a way to keep the numbers at arms length and focus on doing stuff that you enjoy. You definitely need the feedback of stats / comments / etc to get better, but you don't wan to check it 10 times a day. Personally when I launch a video I will check a few times to ensure I didn't screw up anything major, see if there is any useful feedback in comments, then I will check maybe the stats every week or two.

10 months ago

kayson

Your channel is among the best content on youtube, and I am very jealous you get to do this for a living. Do you have any sort of contingency plan for what happens if youtube/patreon is no longer sustainable as an income source?

10 months ago

wahahah

Your content is extremely prolific, good work! I think your thumbnails specifically do a great job of selling the content.

Having a focus on numbers can definitely be caustic; at the end of the day it's about the whims of hundreds, thousands, or millions(!) of people, and even the algorithms in charge of leading them about.

If you make good content, you'll be appreciated for that content regardless of what the numbers reflect.

10 months ago

iudqnolq

His content is incredible. But prolific? He's posted three videos on his main channel in the past year.

10 months ago

roland35

Quality over quantity! Also three is greater than the number of game of thrones books released in the past 20 years...

10 months ago

iudqnolq

I wasn't criticizing. It's not not what prolific means.

10 months ago

Tabular-Iceberg

Judging from the sheer amount of R&D that goes into each one of those I'd say that's pretty prolific.

Hell, that kind of output would even be pretty prolific for a whole team of engineers working on commercial projects for customers.

10 months ago

dangoodmanUT

> Seeing these numbers change based on what you do can be incredibly addicting and it's very easy to accidentally connect your personal happiness to those numbers

As someone who doesn't post as often as other YouTubers, do you find it's harder to be mindful of this because of the "stakes" of a single video, or easier because there's more time to disconnect between uploads? (big fan btw)

10 months ago

swighton

I definitely have a sense of only having one shot so I want to make the best video that I can. Though it’s not so much related to the numbers as it is to:

1) I spend a ton of time on the engineering so I don’t want to make a crappy video that doesn’t do it justice

2) the amount of time spent watching these videos is staggering. Like multiple lifetimes of time is spent watching an average video. If I make a junk video, I’ve just wasted an enormous amount of time. Being a good steward of this weighs heavily on me.

10 months ago

RulerOf

> 2) the amount of time spent watching these videos is staggering. Like multiple lifetimes of time is spent watching an average video. If I make a junk video, I’ve just wasted an enormous amount of time. Being a good steward of this weighs heavily on me.

I wish anyone at google cared about this as much as you do.

10 months ago

goldemerald

I love your content, the only channel I've turned the bell on for. I am curious about your approach to explaining coding and machine learning, do you think it's possible to make "coded for 5 days" engaging in the same way physically building the objects is engaging?

Also, have you considered publishing your work in robotics conferences? I feel like grad students might be hesitant to cite a YouTube video whereas there's clearly enough technical contribution for a full publication.

10 months ago

y-curious

I am a huge fan of you and your wife! How did you handle the transition from working for work and working on your channel? Did you just spend weekends doing personal projects?

10 months ago

benjaminwootton

That’s some of the best produced independent content I’ve ever seen on YouTube. Great work!

The subscriber numbers demonstrate the effect of quality over quantity.

10 months ago

prawn

Joined 2020. 4m+ subscribers. Seriously impressive.

10 months ago

mr_o47

Woah that’s impressive

10 months ago

joeconway

I think you could post something intentionally self indulgent, self serving and knowingly terrible to your numbers and we’d all lap it up. You’re one of the few folks I would describe as brilliant.

10 months ago

carom

Find a niche. People love free content. It wasn't that hard.

I was making computer security videos for people, real basics for programming, networking, web interactions, number bases, bit math - stuff that you need to learn as a base to get into hacking. Grew my channel pretty quickly to 1k subscribers just by sharing them to reddit. I deleted it because I got annoyed that I was making content for YT for free (the videos are still archived on Odysee). It really didn't seem that difficult to grow though when you're giving it away.

For pure dev things, cover different algorithms or data structures. Mobile, gaming, and web will have large audiences but already some established channels.

Other tips -

- Get a good mic, mic stand, shock mount.

- Downsize your screen to 720p when you record so it is large enough for the average laptop screen to read. It is absolutely ridiculous when someone is recording a tutorial on a 4k monitor and the text is microscopic.

- I was less concerned about video but repurposing a DSLR as a webcam is a good move. Pay attention to lighting and your background. Some people like full bright lights, color LEDs are a good vibe too.

- Practice speaking. Slow down.

- Learn to edit so you don't worry about redoing your whole video in a single take. I didn't like editing so I would redo 20 minute videos a few times until I got it right.

10 months ago

marginalia_nu

> - Practice speaking. Slow down.

This is good advice for most people in general. Speaking slower gives more time to think about what you're going to say, which means you say better things. It's shocking how slowly you can get away with speaking.

Incidentally, slowing down is also good advice for improving your handwriting.

10 months ago

gms7777

And with YouTube, anyone that wants to hear it faster can just speed up the video anyway.

10 months ago

marginalia_nu

This is really mostly possible with well enunciated speech, which is only really possible if you slow down a reasonable bit.

10 months ago

yurishimo

I disagree. I think it has more to do with ear training and being familiar with the topics at hand. I listen to most spoken videos on 1.5x by default and can easily go to 2x for channels with hosts that speak slower. This is most noticeable for podcast-esque content that is more free-flowing and unscripted. In those scenarios, I might start out at 2x but slow it down if the podcast hosts/guests get into a passionate argument about a topic and start speaking faster and faster.

Importantly, for topics that I don't understand (learning a new language - Dutch), I often don't speed up those videos because my brain is working a helluva lot harder to keep up. This changed last week however, when I was watching some very basic A1 content and found myself wanting to speed it up just a little bit. Did it help that the presenter was speaking slow and enunciating? Yes, but it's nowhere near the most important deciding factor (imo).

10 months ago

marginalia_nu

To be fair, a lot of content on a podcast-like format is like 5 minutes of ideas stretched out to 115 minutes because that's what podcasts typically boil down to. Doesn't matter if you miss out on some detail because there's just not much subtlety to anything shaped up like a podcast. You can walk away from it for 5 minutes and come back and often you'll not feel like you've lost any information.

You'd probably miss out on quite a lot more if you played a Platonic dialogue back at 2x speed.

10 months ago

wooque

God no, I'm tired of having to set videos to 1.5x

10 months ago

swyx

its no consolation but get the Video Speed Controller extension https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-contro...

10 months ago

fortunateregard

Or drag this bookmarklet to your bookmarks bar.

  javascript: (() => { document.getElementsByTagName('video')[0].playbackRate = prompt("Set video speed multiplier:", "3"); })();
10 months ago

jonsen

Also speaking slower gives the listener time to think about what you say.

10 months ago

marginalia_nu

You can also add a second or two of pause between sentences to the same effect.

10 months ago

znpy

and people can watch you at 1.5x or 2x anyway

10 months ago

ge96

I think people don't like the sound of my voice ha, will experiment with shorts

10 months ago

sublinear

I disagree. The creator should slow down when writing, but they should not waste the viewer's time when speaking. I don't want to hear someone's ramblings unless they're really someone special.

10 months ago

damascus

Rambling and speaking slowly are very different things.

10 months ago

sublinear

Yes exactly! Speaking slowly without a reason to do so is very painful for the listener. If what they have written is worth slowing down for, I'm all ears.

10 months ago

throw0101b

> - Get a good mic, mic stand, shock mount.

Audio is 80% of video.

People will watch potato-quality video; no one will listen to garbage audio.

10 months ago

zikduruqe

> Audio is 80% of video.

It's 100%. Even god himself needs thunder during a storm that has lightning.

(Or that's what I was told when I did some TV shows and how important the audio engineer on set was.)

10 months ago

rg111

I second this as a consumer of a lot of MOOCs.

Bad video as long as you can read everything on the screen is okay.

But poor audio is an absolute bummer. Cannot tolerate this at all.

This doesn't make rational sense to me. I think it is probably because people have access to decent audio for much longer time than they have had good video.

10 months ago

klondike_klive

You can close your eyes but not your ears, is how I've always heard it explained.

10 months ago

marginalia_nu

I can never tell the difference between supposedly good audio and the equivalent of two cans connected with a string. Dunno, maybe I'm lacking the audiophile chromosome or something.

10 months ago

jamilton

This video has pretty good environmental examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUb9kIwHfoE

This one has a good example of bad vocal audio (at 1:00): https://youtu.be/-PLMiA18tBc?t=60

10 months ago

geerlingguy

A lot of it is just "is the can the string is attached to 3" from the speaker or 3'?"

A mediocre mic placed 3-6" from the mouth is going to almost always sound better than any price of mic placed 5' away, except in sound treated studios with excellent technique and strong post-processing.

10 months ago

circuit10

“ means inches and ‘ means feet in case anyone else needs to know because I had to look this up

10 months ago

faangsticle

Thanks, I thought it was an odd quote.

10 months ago

loganc2342

Is this just a US thing? I thought this was common knowledge.

10 months ago

CJefferson

It’s (mostly) just a US thing to measure in feet and inches, so most people don’t learn the shorthand for feet and inches.

10 months ago

throw0101b

> Is this just a US thing? I thought this was common knowledge.

Have you seen the movie This Is Spinal Tap? Good scene on this "common knowledge":

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg5Ovdu6bOE

10 months ago

Am4TIfIsER0ppos

Audio is only as good as its weakest link. recording, compress to youtube, compress by youtube, playback. I guess it is possible to not be repulsed by audio compression artefacts and judging from the average video posted by mobile <slur>s it is shocking common.

10 months ago

znpy

eh, it depends.

i'm not an audiophile either, but some videos really had audio that was terrible enough to make me quit that.

examples: some buzzing in the background, high-pitched noise in one of the channels, or audio in mono (you only hear the person talking from the right ear, for example).

10 months ago

codetrotter

> I got annoyed that I was making content for YT for free

If anyone is interested, I run a PeerTube instance and am looking to add more people aside from just myself creating content on it.

Obviously the reach is not good currently because there is only myself on my instance but imagine what we could do together if a handful or a dozen or so people regularly crate content about tech, programming and/or music on this PeerTube instance. We could grow a nice community together I think.

10 months ago

Dalewyn

>- Downsize your screen to 720p when you record so it is large enough for the average laptop screen to read. It is absolutely ridiculous when someone is recording a tutorial on a 4k monitor and the text is microscopic.

This echoes to basically anything creative in nature. Always consider the average situation of your customers when making your product.

As a programmer, consider whether your program runs properly on a $300 dollar potato from Walmart rather than your $8000 dollar development workstation. As a videographer (aka Youtuber), consider whether your video looks nice on a $300 dollar potato from Walmart rather than your $8000 dollar 8K 60" monitor.

10 months ago

mr_o47

I literally went through the same making my first video.

Had to do a lot of retakes but thanks for the tips. I won’t be able to invest in a mic yet but I’m okay using my apple headphones once I gain some traction I’ll be buying a new mic

10 months ago

mentos

buy a new mic to gain traction?

10 months ago

mr_o47

Sorry what I mean by this is that once I see it’s gaining popularity I’ll invest in a mic

10 months ago

mentos

Ha sorry I was suggesting you should first buy a good mic so that you can gain traction. From other comments here audio quality seems to be critical

10 months ago

DANmode

Subconscious, but true: it will impact the feeling your viewers get when spending time with you.

10 months ago

mr_o47

Agreed,

I just posted my first video

Let me know how you guys feel about it https://youtu.be/PU75M0QkwTQ

10 months ago

cornstalks

I only watched a minute, but the audio volume is too quiet. You could boost the gain but there’s static that detracts from the voice. A good mic will help with that, but you’ll also need to adjust the sound levels before uploading the video. Also, do I hear a very slight bit of music in the background? Either embrace the background music or remove it. Right now it’s just barely audible which is a little distracting.

You don’t have to spend hundreds on a mic. Even a $50 mic with a pop screen will help a lot (I got a $70 one with a boom arm from Amazon and it sounds amazing compared to standard headphone/laptop mics).

10 months ago

mr_o47

Thanks for the feedback and I thinks really good feedback.

I’ll definitely invest in mic and make the sound quality much better

10 months ago

mr_o47

Any mic recommendations and can I also use a headset

10 months ago

tikhonj

I got my mom a Blue Yeti for teaching online classes and it's been pretty solid. I thought it was around $100, but looks like it's $120 on Amazon right now.

If you have a bit more budget, the Shure MV7 seems like a great option. One of my friends is an audio engineer, uses one of those and, at least, sounds pretty great over Discord :P.

10 months ago

cornstalks

I got the Fifine T683. It was one of the cheapest I could find that had a boom arm and a pop screen.

I personally recommend getting something with a boom arm. You can put the mic right up in front of your mouth and move it to sit comfortably. And it takes it off the table so it doesn’t pick up as much table noise.

Someday I might invest in a more expensive option but this was a huge upgrade for me in terms of quality. Beyond this it’s diminishing returns in terms of improvements vs cost. I think something like this is a good starter option.

A headset could probably work but I don’t have any experience with them.

10 months ago

ohghiZai

Samson Q2U is an affordable mic which you can use over USB.

It also has an XLR output that provides an upgrade path for a better audio interface.

You can also monitor with headphones directly on the mic through the 3.5mm input.

10 months ago

slowmotiony

I'm watching for like 2 minutes and I already got lost. What's a python virtual environment? Why do you need it, can't i just install python and be done with it?

10 months ago

iamflimflam1

There’s a lot of noise in the background - strong hiss and what sounds like music playing on the radio.

10 months ago

barbariangrunge

> Grew my channel pretty quickly to 1k subscribers just by sharing them to reddit.

How do you find subreddits you can self promote on without getting a ban?

10 months ago

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10 months ago

zxcvbn4038

Don't let Youtube be the golden copy of your video. They can, and often do, kill your account at any time without notice or explanation and you will have no recourse. Keep the golden copy of all your video someplace reliable like S3 and in a format where you can out watermarks and channel names if needed.

Have a separate account for Youtube then your primary e-mail in case they decide to shut down your entire account your not completely cut off.

Try to have a way to communicate with your viewers outside of Youtube. If the algorithm does kill your channel then often times the only way to get it restored is via social media outrage, and you need a way to ask your followers to be outraged. Fund raise via patreon, have a reddit or discord community, release your videos early on a different platform, etc.

Don't be afraid to refresh old content periodically - everything old is new again.

10 months ago

okdood64

> Don't let Youtube be the golden copy of your video.

The fact that so many people let another SINGLE company, who obviously doesn't serve the original file but their own transcodes, be the "golden copy" of their videos is baffling.

10 months ago

graiz

- Good audio is more important than good video. People can listen to good audio and forgive bad video, but bad audio and people will stop watching.

- It takes time/audience to get traction. I started with a bunch of different topics and this was a waste of time. Having a focus for the channel helps.

- It takes a ton of time. I enjoy the process but don't underestimate the time commitment.

- Don't do it for subs or money, do it if you genuinely enjoy it.

(startups and AI topics https://www.youtube.com/HalfIdeas )

10 months ago

deadeye

Run your audio through Adobe podcast. It's insanly good.

10 months ago

TheHumanist

Will try this. Thanks!

10 months ago

tomxor

This, this, this, audio matters!

It doesn't matter how good your presenting voice is or your video editing skills are, if it sounds like you are in a tin can it's just unbearable to listen to and no amount of post production can ever fix it.

The solution doesn't have to be crazy expensive, the difference between simply having people individually miced up and not is huuuge, that's ~£20 or less for a decent wired lavalier. Don't fall down the rabbit hole of mic quality, the difference between using a personal mic and not is the largest voice audio quality jump you will ever achieve, just buy something that you can pin to yourself, make sure it works consistently, preferably that you can tell it's working when you are using it - and that's super good enough.

10 months ago

mr_o47

Great Advice,

I recently began mine and posted first video on it

If you want to check it out https://youtu.be/PU75M0QkwTQ

10 months ago

echelon

This is the secret to filmmaking too.

Your cinematics can look amazing, but if your sound is amateur, the entire finished product is too.

Bad sound kills.

10 months ago

ROTMetro

I just bought a 75 inch TV and strangely HATED watching anything on it. Hooked up a soundbar (something I said I would never waste money on) and I can't stop binge watching.

10 months ago

HellsMaddy

I'm not a YouTuber, but I found Theo Browne's "How The YouTube Algorithm ACTUALLY Works"[0] to be pretty intriguing.

I watched it a few months ago and just re-skimmed the transript, so I'm not sure if I'm remembering it perfectly, but here's what I took away from it:

- YouTube's algorithm recommends videos based on audience viewing patterns.

- The algorithm doesn't care what the video is about, it only cares about who is clicking on it and watching it.

- Click-through rate and watch time are the most important metrics, they're how the algorithm determines who to recommend your video to, and whether to recommend your video to a wider audience.

- It first shows your video to a small group and if it's well-received, expands to a wider audience with similar viewing habits.

- It repeats this process until it finds the falling-off point, where the click-through rate and watch time drop off.

- Figure out who your niche audience is and make videos that they're likely to click on and watch.

- You're going to need to create enough videos in order for the algorithm to figure out where your audience is, and then you're going to want to make more videos for that audience.

- The average clickthrough rate you see in your analytics is not the whole story. You might have a 20% clickthrough in your target niche, but if the algorithm starts recommending your videos to a wider audience, your click-through rate is going to start to drop. That doesn't mean your video is not doing well, it could actually be doing well enough with your niche that the algorithm is trying to show it to more people outside of your niche.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58jv8WL6H9I

10 months ago

Washuu

I can corroborate the basics of the "small test group". I have a channel with a bunch of subscribers that no matter what I do, when I post to it, YouTube basically shows my videos to the wrong audiences then kills it.(Either due to channel history or something else with how YouTube has categorized it.) So I started a new channel, posted the same videos, and suddenly they just get shown to the proper audiences while doing well.

10 months ago

mayaakim

Relatable "story" that matters. I believe that most people watch youtube because they want a perfect mix of entertainment and education. The audience wants to feel like their life will be transformed and improved (even tiny bit) if they watch your video. And they need to feel like they can relate to you somehow, like you're showing them the "right" way.

I try to follow this pattern in order to make the viewer relate to my videos (and sometimes I fail miserable because it's not easy):

1. I have "X" problem

2. I have this desire to become/learn/do "Y"

3. But I have an obstacle "Z"

4. If I don’t overcome the obstacle, it’s going to be really bad (stakes are high)

Anyways, here's a video where you see how I tried to implement this pattern:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIFxhd-mQFo&t=86s

(also, I didn't invent this pattern, instead I was lucky enough to run into one of Leon Hendrix's videos where he talks about it)

10 months ago

justinhj

I also use this pattern quite often but slightly different. Something like "you want to do X, but Y gets in the way, but there's cool thing Z that saves the day" The whole point of the video is Z. Note it's no accident that this format closely matches the ubiquitous three act structure of movies. I don't do this rigidly though, it's just a useful pattern.

10 months ago

CM30

Try to stick to a schedule. That's something I've personally struggled with a lot, and it's something that the more successful channels I follow have usually done better with. People like to know when new uploads will be posted, and YouTube likes to push videos that people check out quickly after their initial airing.

Because of that, it's probably best not to try and post daily (or multiple times a day) unless you can truly handle it. There's definitely a path to quicker growth if you have a new video going up day in and day out, but that's also often a recipe for burnout in the long run, and the breaks you take to avoid/fix said burnout will be far more damaging than posting once or twice a week would.

Think carefully about the niche you choose to focus on. It should ideally be both something you can get a decent amount of regular content posted about, and something you won't get bored of/burnt out on too quickly. Nothing on YouTube is more difficult than changing your audience when your channel is already established, and I've seen a lot of people's channels crash and burn because of it.

Don't go overboard on shorts unless you want to become a short focused channel. The people who watch those often don't have much patience for longer videos, and probably won't watch your normal content as a result. Focusing too much on these is a good way to get a ton of subs that don't actually care about your work, and to make YouTube think your audience isn't interested in what you're posting.

That's my advice anywhere. As for what my own journey was like?

Honestly, a bit of a mess. On the one hand, my channel has about 33K subscribers right now, and I've had a fair few videos hit the 100K or even 1 million views mark.

On the other hand, I feel I killed a lot of my momentum at various points by not being able to stick to a regular schedule (due to burnout, job and real life needs, etc), and my attempts to try and diversify my content generally haven't done all that well, likely in large part due to focusing too much on a topic where my long term interest was limited.

10 months ago

slyall

Changing can work. If you scroll back to the start of a lot of popular providers and you'll find the originally produced very different stuff.

Even established channels can change. Eg JillBearup[1] used to post videos about science fiction, fantasy, movies. About 8 years in she started a new hobby and posted a few videos about stage fighting that were popular and then pivoted to costumes and fighting in movies. Roughly 10x jump in views per video.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/@JillBearup/videos

10 months ago

avhon1

or Scott Manley, who 5+ years ago was making videos about the video game Kerbal Space Program, and now makes space news videos that typically have 150,000 or more views.

10 months ago

Gunnerhead

Do you mind me asking: Have you made money? Is the money lucrative?

10 months ago

CM30

Yes I've made some money, though it's not exactly a ton (a few hundred quid every few weeks).

Unfortunately, I kinda screwed up a few times, and forgot to monetise popular videos until way later than I should have. Like that video with 6 million views or so? Wasn't monetised until it got about half of that, which was probably a very stupid mistake.

As for whether it's lucrative in general? Eh it depends on the niche, but generally not if we're talking ads. You need hundreds of thousands of views per video to really do well from those alone, and even that is heavily dependent on the subject matter in question and the audience you've drawn in (their country, demographics, etc). Most of the folks I know who do YouTube stuff full time tend to make a decent chunk of their money from Patreon and sponsorships instead, and I know at least one creator who stopped making stuff altogether due to it not covering their living costs (in a fairly cheap, rural part of China mind you).

10 months ago

Gunnerhead

Thank you for the detailed response. Truly appreciate it!

10 months ago

mr_o47

That’s pretty nice,

Have you ever thought about going full time on YouTube

10 months ago

CM30

Considered it, but I think I'd get even more burnt out if I had to rely on YouTube to survive and making videos every day was an absolute necessity.

10 months ago

balaji1

All major creators are uploading YT shorts also now.

How’s the mechanics for it? Have you considered starting from there?

10 months ago

CM30

I do post shorts, and some of them have done pretty well. However, the number of views needed to make serious money with those is insane even compared to normal videos, and it's a completely different audience to the rest of the site. Additionally, given you can't add custom thumbnails for them and the way the algorithm works there is wildly inconsistent (seen some people get like, a hundred views from one short and a hundred thousand from the next one), it's a very risky game to put too much work into.

10 months ago

ilrwbwrkhv

Say something original and different.

I will put down some YouTube channels I like. See how different they are:

https://www.youtube.com/@BlowFan https://www.youtube.com/@CBaggers https://www.youtube.com/@Frankslaboratory https://www.youtube.com/@QuantPy https://www.youtube.com/@SuperDeclarative https://www.youtube.com/@MollyRocket https://www.youtube.com/@Hyperplexed

What you want to avoid at all costs is a channel which does everything (unless you are a news channel and want to put your own spin on that).

10 months ago

huseyinkeles

If we take subscriber count as success criteria, most of the channels you recommend do not look very successful.

So maybe being original and different is not really paying off sometimes?

10 months ago

ilrwbwrkhv

Ya maybe you are right. I don't know what's the best way to optimize for that. I'm not a YouTuber. I guess beginner friendly channels have a higher subscriber count?

10 months ago

acegopher

I think you pasted @MollyRocket in the middle of @SuperDeclarative to accidentally make @MollyRocketative and @SuperDeclar

10 months ago

ilrwbwrkhv

Aah thank you. Fixed.

10 months ago

devoutsalsa

Make a bunch of shitty videos. Learn to get feedback. Look for truth in any criticism. Don’t take harsh feedback too personally. Learn what you can from people who have done it. For example:

https://youtu.be/3A8kawxMOcQ

10 months ago

noone_youknow

I don’t know if I qualify for this, I’m a dev in the day job but my channel is non-tech - after years of tech-only side projects I wanted to do something different. Here’s what I’ve learned so far.

* you have a lot of great advice about audio on the comments here - and they’re right, decent audio is a must. I use a DJI wireless lav for most stuff, but also have a Rode NT-USB for tabletop stuff and their shotgun mic on-camera for sync audio and quick pieces to camera when out and about. I usually record main audio into audacity via a behringer audio interface.

* get a good editing program, and get good (which means efficient) at using it. You’ll spend a lot of time in it. Personally I use the studio version of davinci resolve, other opinions are available.

* it can be feast and famine. I started my channel in Jan this year, and hit 1000 subs / 4000 hours at Easter. Monetised a couple days later. I’ve earned about twenty-five pounds since then - it’s gone quiet, but it’ll pick up again.

* don’t pay too much attention (or really, any) to the VidIQs and Channel Makers of this world - they just want to sell you snake oil (but their videos are often entertaining and you can learn stuff from what they do - just not so much what they say).

* don’t bother with VidIQ or tube buddy or all that other stuff - spend the money on storyblocks, a better camera, lights, audio gear instead.

* decent lights are worth their weight in gold. Aputure are great, but expensive. Smallrig do very similar kit at half the price.

* probably more specific to me, but filming long-take 4K in a hot kitchen with all the equipment going will challenge even the best heat-management system in your camera

Also FWIW I don’t do shorts any more. I experimented with them and the dopamine hit is great, but I’m a long-form guy. Shorts just skewed my analytics and brought in low-quality subscribers…

10 months ago

geerlingguy

Decide if you want to try to generate revenue at some point, or if you are just doing it for the fun or passion of it.

If the former, you'll need to play the YouTube games, invest time in editing, improving technique, studying analytics, sticking to a schedule.

If the latter, post videos, have fun, hack at it... but don't expect more than 100 views on a video.

It can be fun either way, it really depends on your outlook. Cracking into a YouTube career is difficult, and soaks up so much time you'll find yourself wondering what happened to all the actual dev work you wanted to highlight in your content! Most of us who have had success learned a lot of tricks, but also have had a TON of luck.

Besides already being very wealthy, there's no guarantee you can get views or turn things into a full time gig. I spent two years saving up as much as I could consulting before I went into content creation full-time.

10 months ago

mr_o47

Goal is to build online presence and create impact.

10 months ago

dublinben

YouTube is incredibly crowded these days. There’s probably better places to pursue those goals.

10 months ago

mr_o47

Like which ones?

10 months ago

317070

Understand how recommender engines work.

Make life easy on the recommender engine. Pick one topic and stick to it (that way the recommender engine is more confident about what is in the video and who to pitch it to). Use all fields available to explain the recommender engine the niche you want to carve out.

The recommender engine will pitch your video when it is in its best interest to do so. So you have to work with it to get it what it wants.

10 months ago

nubinetwork

I upload things occasionally to my personal YT channel... if there's one thing I could pass on, is to stay the hell away from copyrighted stuff. (Music, visuals, etc)

I don't care if you paid someone for a license (and neither do the YouTube robots), 10 years down the line it could turn out they weren't actually the license holders, or they sold the rights to someone else who didn't know about your earlier agreements... when it comes to YouTube, they shoot first and ask questions "maybe" (assuming you get big and can "harass" them on twitter).

10 months ago

peteforde

I saw both Hank Green and John Gruber give talks at XOXO about how they got started. Both were excellent, and worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPtopvsxmZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufKFStaFsZs

Hank talked about how the best time to start was 15 years ago, but the second-best time is today.

John talked about how when he started covering Apple, he worried that the market was already saturated.

10 months ago

justinhj

I have a channel with 800 subs and I get between a few hundred and a couple of thousand views on the videos, which are about functional programming and category theory. I don't really optimize for views or subscribers though. My reason for making these videos is primarily for the enjoyment of immersing myself in a topic deeply for weeks, then telling a story about it every time I walk my dog until I get to the point I think it will be worth making a video.

It doesn't hurt your career, often someone asks me something in an interview and as well as answering I can point to an hour long in depth video about it. It helps to get your name out in a programming community.

It also lead to being invited to speak at local meetups and then international conferences.

I would say don't try to succeed in a vacuum. If you're already part of a community make sure to use them to get the word out about your content and help you improve it. Do the same for others. Discord communities are great for this.

Finally be aware that to get an audience you can pick a niche where there are less people interested in the thing but more likely to watch your video because there is so little content for them. If, on the other hand, you want to do big numbers, you need to cover mainstream topics. An example would be building something with the latest web framework. Now the potential audience is much bigger but you are competing with established, high quality creators.

https://www.youtube.com/c/functionaljustin

10 months ago

grecy

I've been at it for many years now, my channel @TheRoadChoseMe now has 60k subscribers, and gets pretty solid views.

I think the most important thing I've learned is to make videos that people want to watch. (I know that sounds basic, but I think it's the at the core) The more people watch it, the more YouTube promotes it, and the more people watch it. When that happens, YouTube will even give you a little notice that says they're showing it to more people because more people are watching it. When that happens I pickup tons of subscribers and tons more views than normal (and therefore more money)

Even when I have a post about my video hit the front page of reddit, the number of "external views" pales in comparison to YouTube recommended... so it doesn't matter how hard you promote it, the best thing you can do is make videos that people want to watch, and keep watching. YouTube will promote those videos for you. (See @StuffMadeHere for what happens and how quickly it happens when you make great videos - his channel got where it is now very, very quickly)

How do you do that? I think the best way is trial and error. Make many different types of video with different styles and approaches, and see what works. See what you enjoy, see what you are good at, and learn from that.

Also remember that YouTube is the "more content game". Sooner or later (I bet sooner) you'll run out of ideas and things to film. So start thinking about it now, you need to get in the "always create content" mindset.

10 months ago

michaelteter

I haven't built a channel with the goals most people have, but I have viewed a ton of YT content.

As others have said, spoken audio is a big deal. Or more accurately, giving viewers the abilty to hear spoken audio well is a big deal. That can mean not having constant background noise or music, but it can also mean intentionally speaking more slowly and articulately (as one does when practicing for stage theater). The way you speak really matters. Oddly, I have observed that some of the most prolific and informative presenters are also people with some particularly weak articulation skills... one might think they were slightly inebriated, but it's just the way they talk. You'll hear words like "butns", instead of "buttons", for example.

There is no user-end fix for the above. If the audio isn't clear and understandable, and the speech is important, then the rest of the content is irrelevant.

The content in general should be enough but no more than necessary. So many videos have a title that suggest they will tell you X, but the video spends 80% of the time talking about why you might be wanting to know X before _maybe_ telling you X. Don't f with people's time. If you have a solid point to make, make it early and then indicate that you will expand on the idea or reasoning after. Of course, the monetization scheme of YT encourages viewer time, so one might be inclined to draw out a video length. But be assured, after one or two time waster videos, viewers will never return.

If showing code, use LIGHT MODE, not dark mode. Dark mode text/code is practically invisible to people in a bright environment, which includes some rooms and certainly outdoors. Many people, myself included, will watch informative YT content while eating outside as a break from work. If the content is invisible due to the high ambient light, then obviously we will move on. And for the cave dwellers (which I am also at times), they can turn their screen brightness down. The non-vampires have a maximum brightness limit which cannot compete with the sun.

Lastly, don't fuss too much about the rest. Just do what you like, and do it occasionally or regularly for a long time. It seems to take weeks to years to "suddenly" become popular. Most overnight sensations were working for years before their subscriber curve went hockey-stick.

10 months ago

iamflimflam1

I’ve grown my channel to around 35,000 subs now - link is in my profile.

As someone else has pointed out - decide if you’re doing it for revenue or for fun. This will determine how happy you are going to be.

To be successful you need to find a niche. And then stick to it. This can be very difficult if your goal is to have fun AND make revenue.

Typically, YouTube will show your videos to your subscribers first and based on their reaction will show it to more people - or just kill it.

This means that you have to stick to a very tight niche - the one that resonates with your subscribers.

If you can pull it off, then having people watch your videos because of “you” rather than the content you post can be a winning formula. This frees you up slightly on the niche side of things. But you will need to have an amazingly entertaining personality to make this work.

I write a bit about my frustrations with being stuck in a niche here: https://atomic14.com/2023/03/06/the-curse-of-youtube.html

10 months ago

warning26

Make sure every one of your videos starts with "What's up YouTube" and also includes such phrases as "don't forget to like and subscribe" and "check out my Patreon".

(/s)

On a more serious note, my feeling is that cutting out "fluff" content like that is something I'd really appreciate.

10 months ago

pugworthy

Similar overdone thing is the same intro music in every video. I hate it when I find someone's channel I like, so I start watching lots of videos - which all have the same intro. Gets old fast.

10 months ago

Ekaros

I think people in general have found out that those reminders really do help, but they are really annoying as well...

I would just say skip any video etc. intros.

10 months ago

southwesterly

Just remember to add “without further ado” after your intro.

10 months ago

bsnnkv

I started mine[1] in earnest in the last few months; it's a mixture of programming and let's plays. I'd say don't overthink it; just start recording and uploading. You'll always find things to improve in subsequent videos and it's a really important part of finding your own voice on video platforms.

Try to make a recording and uploading schedule, don't make too many videos public at once and use the schedule function to spread out when your new videos appear in subscribers' feeds, because people are quick to unsubscribe if they think they see "too much of you" in their subscriptions feed.

[1]: https://youtube.com/@LGUG2Z

10 months ago

mr_o47

I recently posted my first programming video after getting inspired by other fellow programmer youtubers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PU75M0QkwTQ

10 months ago

repple

Nice. I think you have potential to do great. You have a nice voice which is easy to listen to and you’re going at the right pace. Music volume is just right. Keep at it.

10 months ago

mr_o47

Thank you for the feedback,

I really appreciate it

10 months ago

locustous

Have a purpose. Have an intended audience to fulfill that purpose. Cater to your audience.

If you wander about aimlessly, well, you will be aimless.

10 months ago

xwdv

Make sure you present yourself as attractive as you can be. If you look attractive, people will generally assume you must know what you’re talking about compared to someone ugly looking with bad lighting.

And this goes for any profile pics or thumbnails you use, etc. Look attractive in them. Use a filter if you must.

10 months ago

Decabytes

If you plan on making YouTube a career, work hard to avoid having Adsense be your primary form of income. Linus Tech Tips talks about how even with his media empire they are still beholden to the whims of YouTube in a way that still stresses him everytime they release a video

10 months ago

shrimp_emoji

Grift as shamelessly as possible, and you'll have millions and a studio in 5 years.

10 months ago

ipaddr

Biggest advice is don't include music. Removing all sound even better. Someone will make a copyright compliant against all of your content at some point based on matching a few notes of unrelated songs

10 months ago

aardvark179

Are you doing this for money or exposure? Patreon or super chat things on YouTube dwarf the revenue you can get from a video, so if you can find a niche that really interests a particular group of people that may be a better option than trying to cast a wide net.

I know a couple of people outside the tech field who operate their patreon almost like a consultancy. If you pay the £150 you get a couple of hours of one on one discussion and coaching per month. They could only build this on a reputation that they had built up over many years.

10 months ago

unobatbayar

Made a YouTube channel 12 years ago.

But stopped making videos after 2 years, really regret it now. It was a completely different scene back then. I would have dropped out of high school and pursued a YouTube channel if I knew it would be this big.

It was really interesting to think about what kind of videos to make and was always excited to check the view count every day. Precious time.

For anyone curious, the channel: https://m.youtube.com/@MrUsukhbayar

10 months ago

simple10

It's worth playing around with ChatGPT for YouTube video ideas. You can give ChatGPT titles of popular video in your niche and then ask it to output similar title ideas that are likely to do well on your channel. Then ask it to generate script outlines for those videos.

Here's a useful video from Matt Wolfe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka1Pqk2o3tM&t=612s

10 months ago

w10-1

disclaimer: no channel, just an observer

Is YouTube the only medium you're considering?

For business, my understanding is that people now find success mainly though multi-channel and upgrade channels, so you would have some shorts/tic-toks, substack, instagram, twitter, ... (Which suggests some IDE support for the various artifacts being repurposed...) The goal seems to be to convert ~0.5% of the free folks to the $200 upsell: the batch of books, the online course (esp. if constantly updated). See e.g., Kat Norton, https://www.hackingwithswift.com, ...

While my personal preference runs to no-fluff-just-stuff, success seems to lie in motivating people with each step, with curiosity and enthusiasm, in part because that targets people who want to do X, but find themselves blocked (in part from frustration, loneliness, ...). It's probably a lot easier to unblock people who are just confused and frustrated, than to give focused people real insight. It may be more valuable as well, to lift all boats.

10 months ago

psychphysic

Your channel should hit the ground running.

The means having a catalogue of videos (10-20?) that will go up together, avatars, banners etc.

People tend to watch a video like it and check out what else you have and mini-binge. Then sub.

If you don't have a small selection of videos they might not find something they like. No sub and you vanish off into the algorithm.

10 months ago

TheAceOfHearts

I don't have a YouTube channel, but if I were to create one I'd probably listen to every single podcast appearance from MrBeast since he's basically become the King of YouTube, and he regularly gives very actionable and clear advice.

10 months ago

lolinder

I haven't specifically looked at these podcasts, but getting advice from superstars is very rarely the right move in any domain, especially in something as arbitrary as media. It's hard for a superstar to tell in retrospect what they did that contributed to their success and what was just dumb luck and coincidence.

10 months ago

mattboardman

I would agree with you, but Mr. Beast is very methodical and has the algorithm beat at this point.

10 months ago

hackermailman

I've watched those, the recommender algo he claims is simple. Whoever achieves the longest continuous views wins so you introduce every video with very brief 'here is what you are watching' then do that video you just described. What you don't do is long intros, music intros or not tell people what's going on. The thumbnail helps but not as much in the past, it should just be something interesting and unique to the video encouraging viewers to click.

Like everything you should make it a story. Here is the build up and hook, here is the wow moment or climax. A basic programming video can be this.

That's all you have to do assuming it is well edited/audio. Edit: once he started having success he paid for translations because French/Spanish is also a huge YouTube userbase

10 months ago

swyx

yeah, see, advice like "pay for translations" is unrelatable for anyone under 10m subs, which is where everyone here is.

10 months ago

hackermailman

Not for me because I did my own translation and became a meme because of my awful accent according to comments, currently my French translation is making money which I found hilarious because ppl are posting me as the idiot who has good videos for MSTs and linear programming. Anyway just have fun and don't worry about money if the content is what you would like to see you'll do OK. Guys like Mr Beast have teams of pros

10 months ago

mongol

So many videos seem mostly to be about to showcase the presenter's keyboard shortcut skills. It is annoying to see them type away in an improvised fashion. I prefer more structure and a coherent story being told.

10 months ago

nmaleki

If you want a successful channel within the next few years, you need to upload frequently. At least once or twice a month. You will be rewarded greatly for uploading faster sooner.

10 months ago

andsoitis

What is the goal you're trying to accomplish? Is a YouTube channel the best way?

10 months ago

mr_o47

Thank you everyone for providing great advice and tips

I really appreciate the responses

10 months ago

tsumnia

I started making YouTube videos for my classes back in 2015, currently have around 3.3k subs and just crossed 1 million total views. Link in my profile and MAKE SURE TO SMASH- I'm not doing that...

Others have said it, but audio is 100% critical. Some of my earlier videos were using a dinky Samson Meteorite omnidirectional mic, and the results were subpar imo. I finally picked up a Yeti over COVID remote learning and I am very happy with the results. Side tip, ALWAYS CHECK THAT YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON! It really sucks to knock out a 10 minute video and find out there's no sound...

Play around with your "style" of video - floating head, voice over, literally standing in front of a giant white board, or go wild and use the 3brown1blue animation style. I personally like the floating head with Khan Academy style drawing.

Things that matter if you choose to do the "floating head" style - lighting and deciding if you want to use a green screen.

- Lighting is hit and miss, mostly because the room I currently record in has massive windows so light is always pouring in. I do use a standing lamp with 3 bulbs to help balance out my shadows.

- Green screens are a pain in the ass in my opinion. One of my most viewed videos (on the Luhn Check algorithm, thanks CS0) has me fading in and out. I ended up donating it to the school's visual arts lab when I moved.

If you're going with the Khan Academy / Slides approach, get familiar with OBS and all the little annoyances like making sure menus appear in the recordings (I think its some Windows 7 compatiblity thing?). If you have your head on the screen, try to frame things so your head isn't hiding the material (some of mine have that but always minor stuff).

In regards to tempo, I sort of disagree with the comments on speaking slowly. I do a slightly faster tempo with casual but VERY articulate and excited speech. Many of my comments from my lectures and videos point this out as a positive. Rather than users needing to 1.5x the video, remember that its a recording and if they don't get something, they can rewind. Again, I try to be very articulate with my speech (with no accent) because I know not everyone is from my state. I try to follow an "assume they no nothing but want to learn it" approach, so nothing is hand waved away.

In regards to "what to record" - it helps to have a general plan. There's a lot of intro CS material out there, but that's not always a bad thing. Try to think about what students trying to learn are looking for. Some of my more popular videos are about Microsoft Access.

Growth and Revenue - I can't offer much help. I get some ad revenue like once a year at most. However, the videos are supplemental for my students in my classrooms. I'm not trying to make it a career, just trying to offer people not in my class a chance to see my explanations.

10 months ago

endisneigh

Why?

Entertainment? Trying to make money? Hobby?

10 months ago

mr_o47

Mostly hobby,

More like an impact teaching a new skill or just showing something cool related to tech

10 months ago

KronisLV

My experiences with YouTube and other platforms have been mixed.

I recently setup a personal channel for the occasional development video, for when the content doesn't quite fit into just a written blog post. On such a new channel with no prior uploads and without posting the videos anywhere else, I got close to 500 views on a video about the Godot game engine in less than a month. Yet, another video about Ansible had under 50 views in 3 months.

Meanwhile, a separate gaming YouTube channel where I upload Twitch VODs and such has over 100 videos, yet the most viewed video has under 200 views and there are like 20 subscribers on that channel, whereas on Twitch there are 50 followers.

I don't think it's quite possible to figure out the YouTube algorithm, but in general, I get the feeling (through my lack of success), that:

  - Picking good video topics (popular subjects) probably helps.
  - Picking a good video format (edited videos up to 30 minutes in length, instead of something like unedited stream VODs/super long videos) probably helps.
  - Good presentation (good visual quality and content, some effects/transitions and just competent video editing) probably helps.
  - Good audio (decent mic, audio not peaking but being balanced, some EQ, limited background noise, well articulated speech) probably helps.
  - Getting people who are actually interested in your content watching it and interacting with it (likes, comments, watch time) probably helps.
  - You probably need all of that, as well as a good amount of luck and the right kind of personality/manner of presenting to succeed.
In regards to that last point, I absolutely do not think that I have the right personality for this (for example, too passive/monotone voice), yet I don't mind using YouTube for those blog videos or stream VOD backups for the sake of it. Others probably experience 10x-100x the growth that my channels might. For example, a friend who streams on Twitch has gotten 50 followers in about 3 weeks on a new account, yet it took me over a year to get there.

I recently figured I'd try out YouTube Shorts on the gaming channel - I got about 400 views in a single day after bringing over some Twitch clips, but then views for those more or less fell off a cliff. Seems like they were presented to a wider audience at first to see if they're interested and when there wasn't too much interest, the content wasn't offered up that much.

The same applies to other types of videos - if you make development videos and nobody is interested in the topic or your video itself, then growth is unlikely. Thus, try to go for quality over quantity, yet upload somewhat regularly, if possible. Probably share the videos in any relevant communities as well.

I wouldn't call my experiences positive, but I guess that helps avoid survivorship bias ("Hey, I failed at the thing, here's some of the stuff I did and it didn't work."). At the end of the day, try to have fun doing it, listen to what the more successful people out there have to say, yet be prepared to put in more work than initially anticipated, sometimes with way less than optimal results. Good luck!

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10 months ago

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10 months ago

superkuh

I created a youtube account in 2006. Sometimes I take or edit videos and re-host/syndicate them on youtube. The end.

10 months ago