List one task, do it, cross it out

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1/20/1970
10 months ago
by Tomte

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pontifier

I have a cleaning technique I call ant mode. A colony of ants can accomplish a lot. They can move immense amounts of materials, and create well organized groupings of things.

In ant mode, I pick up one thing, and then I put it in a place it belongs.

If I don't know where it belongs, I put it down with something else of the same type. I'm only ever picking up one thing, I'm only ever putting it down in one spot. I envision myself becoming a colony of ants.

It's very helpful when moving lots of things from one spot to another, and I pretend that I am one of multiple ants making the same trip back and forth. It's surprising how effective it is because there's no thought required. No second guessing. There's no wondering what to do next, it's just pick up something out of place and move where it belongs.

The best thing about ant mode, is that I can stop anytime, and I've accomplished something. Things are better than I found them.

10 months ago

KineticLensman

One problem that I encounter while doing this is that you get distracted when you get somewhere and forget to go back to the place you are supposed to be tidying. I solve this by leaving my glasses at the origin, and the need to read things will drag me back

10 months ago

thecleaner

Create a log then. All software people here surely we know how to organise data. :-D

10 months ago

mk_stjames

This reminds me of the process of 'Knolling', popularized by artist Tom Sachs. By definition it is just the act of arranging objects, tools, materials etc into spaced, parallel or perpendicular alignment on a table. Tom calls this out as an organizational technique, summed up by 'Always be Knolling' [0] - constantly scan your environment for things that are not in use, and if they are not in use put them away. If you are not sure if you need them, group all like objects, and align them all to be square to each other and the workspace.

It's not like being aligned makes tools and materials really that much better organized, but it's the act of doing this that gets things put away and keeps clutter down and workspaces efficiently utilized.

It's similar in part to steps in the Toyota "5S" system. [1]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-CTkbHnpNQ

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5S_%28methodology%29

10 months ago

contingencies

I am one of those people who feel there's a certain amount of meaningful and useful context embodied in the last position of things... the files on the Desktop, the junk on the table, the books out of the book shelf, the tabs in the browser.

As a consequence, I can shift context easily because all I have to do is scroll back to my prior workspace (physically or digitally). However, to remain effective, such a strategy requires a strict policy of no interference (nothing irritates me more than people reorganizing my stuff - which is why I insist on doing my own cleaning).

Sometimes it gets out of hand. This week I closed all my browser tabs and realised the left-most of them had been open for 3+ months. On the other hand, it means using mental powerups like RCS/VCS repositories, todo lists, and project documentation becomes second nature because they are all free stored-context extensions.

It's the mental antithesis of inbox zero - notbox infinite.

10 months ago

c22

I agree with you, but as you point out, it doesn't work in multiplayer.

"Knolling" is a technique specifically born from a shared work environment.

10 months ago

basq

Interesting. I've always done this as a natural habit, I thought it was acute latent neurosis. But now I feel validated.

10 months ago

1propionyl

I do this but I think of it as lowering my local domestic entropy after having increased it through laziness or sloppiness before.

It's remarkably easy to get into a good flow doing this starting from a pen here or there and eventually cleaning whole rooms.

10 months ago

PebblesRox

I call it "seeding." When a mess is bothering me but there's a barrier (internal or external) to dealing with it completely in the moment, I "seed" the cleaning process by doing just a little bit.

A few rounds of seeding can have a surprisingly big impact and every round is an opportunity for the momentum to kick in it that leads to the whole job getting done.

10 months ago

ranting-moth

I often use something similar. I call it spontaneous incremental tidying and decluttering. I remind myself that tidying is a process, not a goal. One iteration of the algorithm is very quick and I can do as many as I like.

I often tell myself that I'm going to use it to clear this small area, and before I know I've made massive progress. But if I don't, then I've still made a dent and I can resume anytime.

10 months ago

eyelidlessness

This sounds remarkably like how I clean even though I mentally model it very differently. For me it’s “linear mode”: I start in one place and move til I’ve reached all targets, only moving when I’m done where I started or to put like things in their designated staging. It only trips me up when my staging categories don’t line up with reality, and then I just recategorize with a hard “snap decisions or no decisions” limit.

10 months ago

southwesterly

I do ant more too. I’m going to call it any more now.

10 months ago

mucle6

Not roasting you, just pointing out something interesting

I've never seen 3 typos that "mutate" the word into a valid word, in one sentence or comment

> I do ant more too. I’m going to call it any more now.

10 months ago

solumunus

Not that hard to imagine if they have autocorrect on a mobile.

10 months ago

RheingoldRiver

I'm gonna guess not autocorrect, but swype/swiftkey. y is next to t and d is adjacent to r. SwiftKey absolutely butchers me like this when I type slightly unfamiliar words, especially if I'm going fast. It would never let me type "ant" if I haven't already typed it once normally. And "more" being preferred over "mode" isn't that hard to believe too.

10 months ago

pacoverdi

Gboard turns 'demain' to 'fellation' so often that I had to delete the latter from its vocabulary to avoid embarrassing moments

10 months ago

Pamar

Wow, man... that sucks!

10 months ago

pacoverdi

It also converts 'tu arrives' into 'tu suces'... so yes :)

10 months ago

wholinator2

Yeah, just kind of crazy that so many people don't proof read their comments anymore. I swear the number of easily spotted and fixed typos is getting ridiculous. I typed this on my phone and if i didn't constantly fix mistakes in word prediction it would be an unreadable mess.

It's gotten so bad that I'm left either to assume that most people out here either don't know English very well or are roughly code bots. Read your own comments before you post, people!

10 months ago

doubled112

I made a few of the off-by-one kind of typos with clients and coworkers really early on in my career, and learned to always always proofread before I ended up having a chat with HR for something completely unintentional.

Examples:

Mild kitty indigestion -> Milf kitty indigestion

Is your free/busty time showing correctly now?

10 months ago

yawnxyz

Sometimes I'll type something correct, hit send, and it'll autocorrect the correct word to an incorrect word, e.g. "ant mode" to "any more", AFTER I've hit the send button

10 months ago

Skeime

I think this happens because generally, autocorrect will do its thing after pressing space, or some other type of white space. At the end of a message, we usually press enter, which then serves both as the autocorrect trigger and the send trigger. You could notice that autocorrect has still selected the word (thus indicating its intention to correct), but really, that’s a bit subtle.

I would think that pressing enter should only send if no autocorrect was triggered by it (and sending requires hitting enter a second time), but maybe then you get the even bigger problem of constantly forgetting to actually send.

10 months ago

Cyphase

Or people could use punctuation at the end of messages. But then Gen Z will think you're mad at them.

10 months ago

flatline

Most of my typos of this sort come from turning auto correct off, because I do not like it rewriting my language when it guesses a word completely wrong.

10 months ago

cmurf

It's really consistently this dogshit for me. Both Android and iOS.

10 months ago

0x6461188A

3 typos? I only see 2.

10 months ago

scubbo

2 typos (ant -> any, mode -> more), with one of them repeated. Could arguably be called 2 or 3, depending on whether we're counting classes or instances.

10 months ago

heyoni

This. This right here is peak HN.

10 months ago

andsbf

Geeks gonna geek it

10 months ago

PartiallyTyped

I do something similar, I call it 2n+1. When I use n items in a room or put stuff there, i try to collect or clean 2n + 1 items.

10 months ago

painted-now

That's a cool name!

I think I do the same, e.g. when I have to pack up for a vacation and at the same time need to bring my apartment in good shape: I basically just look around, see what looks wrong, fix it. Continue with the next.

I regularly amaze myself when at some point I take a small break or walk into another room and stuff looks really much better.

10 months ago

leokennis

That’s a great description. On top of this, if I clean just one thing I feel a sense of accomplishment. Meaning I clean a second thing to feel that again. In no time, my house is in order.

99% of the battle is just starting.

10 months ago

sillyapple

Chef once told me "mise en place is a way of life". I'm still living it. Very similar to ant mode.

10 months ago

scarface_74

My first job out of college way back in 1996, I was a hybrid computer operator for a backup site for a state lottery and a “programmer”. My manager told me when shit hits the fan and if we did have to take over from the primary site, I would be fielding calls left and right and people would be breathing down my neck - including my skip manager and people from the business side. We had a stupid high SLA and steep fines for being down.

He said ignore everyone and talk through the checklist of the step I was taking on the checklist. I had permission to tell everyone including him to give me some breathing room. In other words - do one thing at the time.

I’ve taken that to heart in my personal and professional life for the last 25+ years.

It’s especially helpful when shit hits the fan at a job and I need to prepare for my next move. I’ve developed a “it’s time to prepare for another job” checklist that I can activate at a moments notice.

10 months ago

codetrotter

> I’ve developed a “it’s time to prepare for another job” checklist that I can activate at a moments notice.

Did you ever have to activate said checklist? If so, at what time or what times?

10 months ago

scarface_74

6 times since 2012 and I’m preparing for the 7th just in case. I work for the BigTech company known for its “PIP culture”. It hasn’t happened yet to me. But it always could.

1. Warm up my network. Reach out to people on LinkedIn, meet coworkers and former coworkers for lunch whenever I’m in their city (my wife and I “nomad” six months a year) and recruiters. There are a few recruiters I’ve met in person who know the industry and the players.

2. Prepare my “career document” - ie a longer form of a resume where I list my accomplishments in STAR format so I have talking points for my soft skill interviews.

3. Update my resume

4. Clean up my open source portfolio. This is new. I work in a department where it is easy to put the reusable parts of client facing work through our open source approval process. It usual takes two weeks. It’s MIT license so I can fork it from our official repos and continue working on it.

Notice I didn’t say “grind leetCode” (tm) r/cscareerquestions. I’m 50 years old. I haven’t done a coding interview since 2012 and that was my first time and I’m still an active coder as part of my job. If we can’t talk like adults and I can’t convince a company the value I bring, it’s not a place I’m going to work.

As far as when:

- 2008: at a company for nine years through four acquisitions. I had become an “expert beginner”.

- 2012: a startup was on its last legs. We all knew it and I was one of the tech leads who they trotted out to to talk to potential investors and acquirers.

- 2014: Working for the company that Jack Welch expanded on a house of cards.

- 2016: working on a “tiger team” at a satellite office until the old guard pushed out my skip manager and my manager who was brought in to modernize them.

2018: company acquired by a private equity company. I was the tech lead and the company said they “didn’t want to be a software company”

2020: the first time I didn’t purposefully activate it. The opportunity to work at BigTech fell into my lap (cloud consulting department). I was happy where I was.

Present: I stay prepared. But figure between savings and severance if things start going crazy, I have a window to either get a full time job or someone is going to pay me for consulting especially with my current credentials.

10 months ago

znpy

Love this comment… I’m commenting the be able to find it more easily later :)

10 months ago

barbariangrunge

What’s the checklist have on it?

10 months ago

scarface_74

See my previous comment

10 months ago

barbariangrunge

No leetcode? That is possible? This fills my heart with hope

10 months ago

scarface_74

You shouldn’t have hope. I tell all of my younger relatives to “grind LeetCode and work for a FAANG” (tm) r/cscareerquestions.

I didn’t purposefully set out to work at BigTech, it kind of fell into my lap. I was also 46 before I landed at one. A returning intern that graduated in 2022 that I mentored had an offer that was the same as what I was only $20K less than I was making two years earlier.

If I were starting out now, I definitely would have been preparing for coding interviews. I have a lot more flexibility and experience at 49.

10 months ago

cardy31

I would also love to see that checklist!

10 months ago

scarface_74

See my previous reply

10 months ago

nchudleigh

I think this is why I love incident response.

"In an emergency, that whole tangle of self-absorption lifts, because "what needs to be done" is usually so obvious that nobody, not even my inner critic, could reasonably disagree. For a certain kind of person – and I'm definitely one of them – this total absence of ambivalence feels freeing, even disconcertingly elating, never mind the fact that what's unfolding around me is unquestionably bad."

10 months ago

gumby

I think this is the reason deadlines work so well for some people: the need to finish task X before tomorrow autodeprioritizes everything else.

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

That works nicely until your brain figures it out and it stops working - instead of "autodeprioritizing everything else", it just cranks up the fear of impending failure to the point nothing has any priority because you can barely think straight...

For me, this switch happened somewhere between my last year at university and my second job. As a part of it, I lost the ability to "pull off all-nighters" - not in the sense of being able to stay awake that long, but in the sense of being able to do anything useful in that time.

10 months ago

mckirk

I can definitely relate to that. I don't think it's necessarily an effect of your brain 'figuring out the trick', but more an issue of a part of your 'identity' getting shifted in an unhelpful direction.

When I was younger, I was absolutely sure that I'd pull off whatever was required of me, even if that meant doing everything under a ton of pressure. But at some point, the circumstances just didn't allow that anymore... And after the first time that this paradigm didn't work out anymore, I didn't have this reassuring surety anymore either, which was a big part of why it always did work out before I think.

So now I just tell people to be careful with their personal 'axioms', and to not stress them to a breaking point.

10 months ago

wholinator2

I can also relate that pulling off all nighters at school tended to be at least a little rewarding. Either i was learning something interesting or building something cool but the similar calibre problems at work don't have the same allure. If I'm doing the same at work it either means work was incorrectly planned and now I'm expected to fix that, or someone else broke something unnecessarily and now I'm expected to fix that. It's just an entirely negative context to extra work now. I'm not really learning anything, I'm not getting paid more, I'm not getting a cool project out of it. It's just an accidentally (sometimes) manufactured catastrophe that someone with more money or power has declared is my fault or responsibility. I definitely do much better in academia

10 months ago

scarface_74

I work in consulting and I refuse to do “staff augmentation” type work where there is a predefined bucket of money and no goals or deadlines at the beginning. I also jump on projects where there is a short deadline and reasonable scope. It forces focus. I also try to jump on any project during pregnancy-sales so I can help shape the scope and deadlines.

10 months ago

tommilukkarinen

Lovely insight.

10 months ago

agumonkey

I tend to feel better in semi critical situations due to that. Less friction, higher focus. Some people are even addicted to these because it feels like a healthier deeper challenge.

ps: and in an extrapolated variant, i remember reading an article about vietnam us army vet saying they can't live in society anymore because was has near zero ambivalence and they prefer it.

10 months ago

irthomasthomas

Yeah I was nodding along with that, and the whole article, really. Explains why I volunteered for first aider.

However, I'm not sure if his one neat trick of mono-tasking is enough to overcome my own particular version of this malody. Just now, after reading this, I thought, why don't I try this monotasking thing right now. And my first task will be to rearrange my KDE desktop to support this more linear mode. Instead of having multiple projects spread out across many desktops and activities, I might go back to one desktop with two windows. I can have the main project IDE open on the left and use tdrop to turn all other apps into dropdowns that shuffle in and out, one at a time, on the right side. I'd press a button and the terminal would be replaced by web browser. Press another and the browser is replaced by the file manager, and so on. Now, wouldn't it be great if the file manager, when it drops down, defaulted to the current project directory, instead of always the same home directory? Yeah! So, I'll need to probably set up an Activity per Project and name it as the project. Then I can run a script on activity change that sets the file managers default directory to the project. Then again, I think, I already have access to the files through the IDE, and home much of my file manager time do I really spend in the project dir, Vs my Documents, Apps, Downloads, Scripts, Books and Media dirs? I guess I should set up a hotkey for each of my main destinations, then I can go to any of those destinations with one command, and reduce the opportunities for distraction. But, which hotkey system to use, the one built in to KDE Plasma? Or, the one in my Stream Deck, or xdotool, or sxhkd, or even break out the big guns with autokey?

Any idea I have leads to a combinatorial explosion of new ideas. And one of those new ideas eventually and inevitably feels a hundred times more important and more urgent than the original idea that spawned it.

So, when I try this monotasking, I think it may work for a while, but without fail it will break down when I'm in the middle of a mono-task and suddenly become convinced that the new idea I have will actually make this current task irrelevant, or so much easier to complete using the new tool I just invented in my head, that it would feel crazy NOT to abandon this task and switch to the new one.

10 months ago

leokennis

Also, in a prio 1 incident, suddenly everyone is there to help you.

The most unity I ever feel amongst colleagues is when we’re in a war room and stuff is broken left and right. And once service is resumed, the immense shared feeling of relief and accomplishment.

10 months ago

abbadadda

Unfortunately, incident response was the first thing that I thought of also. You might be an SRE if? :-)

10 months ago

ilyt

I like it because it cuts bikeshedding and people meandering endlessly on possible ideal solution

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

I like it because it provides a socially acceptable excuse to tell other people to GTFO and let me focus. Otherwise, I tend to be distracted by requests from other people. Often imagined ones. It's really probably just me who needs to convince myself that yes, I can say "no", and yes, I can stop thinking about every other obligation and expectation while focusing on the task at hand. A crisis temporarily eliminates this entire problem.

10 months ago

ilyt

We just nominate a central person for contact during emergency and they have to deal with the communication, then rest just updates the status of the outage to that person.

10 months ago

mrbombastic

I do something similar to this with my dead simple todo list. there is no TODO section a MAYBE section a DOING section and a DONE section, only one thing ever in the DOING section until it is crossed out, if you come across some rabbithole add it to TANGENT section and resist urge to do it, once you are done with your task pick another one from MAYBE. It sounds dumb because it is basically the same thing but TODO sections stress me out and bring about that foreboding feeling that you will never get it all done, and they always grow never shrink. A lot of times i’ll look at the MAYBE section the next day and some things just aren’t as important as I thought or somebody else did it. Like I said dumb and simple but thats why i like it.

10 months ago

colanderman

I use a similar system for my personal and work Trello. Only ever one thing in the "Doing" column. And completed things go into the "Done" column. It's the only way I've been able to manage what is likely undiagnosed ADHD and also avoid total burnout.

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

I have a question that's maybe super naive, but it's something I'm struggling with: that one designated item in the DOING session, what happens when it turns out to be a big challenge, perhaps a multi-day one, something you just can't possibly do in one sitting? I mean, obviously, you should push it back to TODO section and pick something else, but how do you deal with the associated feelings of frustration and powerlessness?

10 months ago

mrbombastic

I create another note dedicated to that big task with the same rules, and try to find the simplest first thing you can do for that task, and put that in DOING section, rinse and repeat until the big task is done. Or if it is too big to do in one go just call it Big task part 1 and timebox it with the same approach. Tomorrow if it is still a priority make a Big task part 2. Edit: about feelings of powerlessness when I am feeling particularly useless or like I am struggling to get things done I make my DOING items laughably tiny, like “get the project running” “find file related to the bug” or even something as simple as “create a branch” that way I get a little dopamine from checking boxes and I can build some momentum.

10 months ago

theptip

If you can split the task such that the current item is re-scoped to be tractable (say, “scope out <new challenge> and come up with a plan”) and you create new tasks for the unexpected work / finishing initial goal, then you can capture the best of both; you did make forward progress, you ticked an item off, and you learned something useful. You just didn’t complete what you originally hoped you would.

10 months ago

borg16

not the author of the comment, but try breaking down the bigger task into smaller achievable tasks and add those into the DOING section? This should address the issue you are asking about.

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

This defeats GP's idea (and the idea from the article) of only having one task at a time in the DOING section.

10 months ago

_annum

One solution would be to nest sub-tasks into items in the MAYBE column, which could increase the chances of the larger task being accomplished/initiated. If a MAYBE task is insurmountable or too complicated for a single session, it should be returned to the MAYBE column and refactored accordingly.

10 months ago

wtetzner

Not if you just do one of the smaller broken down tasks at a time.

10 months ago

balaji1

Students (in some parts of the society), sometimes up to the age of 25, are put on rails and it is always obvious what needs to be done next.

Once in the "wild", most individuals are forced to make their own path. On top of that, minor tasks and chores pile up, leading to decision fatigue. Very few things are fulfilling. It's hard I guess. And that seems to be the topic in Oliver Burkeman's book 4000 weeks.

10 months ago

bsder

> On top of that, minor tasks and chores pile up

This. So much this.

"Rich" people often have so much time available to them because they make enough money to offload all the minor tasks (shopping for basic needs, government paperwork and bureaucracy, scheduling appointments, etc.).

10 months ago

wmeredith

Paradoxically, wealthy people often feel like they have less time, because their opportunities are so much broader than those without less money. So it’s a factor of rising opportunity costs.

10 months ago

balaji1

I would be happier with fewer chores and admin tasks. I never get those done in one shot. They take a lot of time, cost too much to delegate.

Some tasks I don’t even know how I can delegate but I’m sure some people do.

And just to avoid the rich vs poor, I’ll caveat - some people’s first instinct is to successfully delegate or get help. And or they spend more. Caveat’s caveat: it can be learned and practiced, like anything.

10 months ago

BlargMcLarg

Eh, from a 'different society', school stopped holding my hand going into adulthood and gave me far more freedom than any job has ever done so far. Most jobs had more in common with elementary school, trying to control most aspects. Only elementary school did the feedback loop far better.

None of that stopped procrastinating. Most people fill the excess time allotted regardless.

10 months ago

balaji1

I noticed the phrase "accelerating world" on https://www.oliverburkeman.com/books. Nice wording. A lot of people feel it.

10 months ago

miahwilde

Here's a thought: what if it's less that the rate of change is increasing and more that our mental models of the world tend to solidify as we age such that the perceived rate of change of the world increases. This is more an observation of the "the world was a lot simpler when I was young" mentality rather than a comment on the long range compounding effects of technology though they might be related.

10 months ago

jamiek88

You deffo have something there, we do ossify if we aren’t careful or we aren’t naturally childlike (Feynman type curiosity), but I think it’s also true that acceleration is happening.

I mean that’s pretty objective.

In my own lifetime (only in my 40’s!) social norms and expectations have rapidly changed as has the constant sense of urgency injected into the zeitgeist by profit making 24hr news and social media.

Propaganda was something you read about in history books (naively) not something you were bombarded with constantly by both anti and pro political positions.

When teens went home they had relief from social pressure now they are never, ever, alone with their thoughts.

Fall asleep clutching their iPhones wake up to 100 missed messages.

Ever seen a normally popular teens phone light up? I got a sense of panic and said ‘what’s wrong? What’s happened?’ And they just looked at me weird. What? This is normal?

My phone only blows up like that when there is a disaster!

10 months ago

ghaff

I have a minimum of notifications turned on. I'll sometimes be in a work group chat for a customer meeting or something. But otherwise push notification traffic is pretty low. And sometimes I'm polling a lot but I can turn that off.

10 months ago

balaji1

wish all the teens (and adults, at least the adults) were so intentional and in control. Most most most people are really not in control over their phone use; no one can deny that.

10 months ago

jamiek88

Me too but my mental well being doesn’t require constant contact and social communication.

In fact it depends on the opposite.

10 months ago

13of40

It's kind of interesting that emotionally I agree with that feeling, but if you just look at the fact that I'm reading what you wrote in real time from the most remote island chain in the world, and with a couple of finger swipes I could switch apps and buy a buggy whip with one click...I mean just imagine what you would have to do to buy a buggy whip in 1985.

10 months ago

wholinator2

What the hell is a buggy whip? And if you couldn't buy one, what's stopping you from making one

10 months ago

13of40

It's a device for motivating horses to pull your carriage, which was high tech at one time but was obsoleted by the introduction of the motor car. It became a metaphor for technologies obsoleted by other advancements. The irony is that in the olden days, from my perspective, it would have been a massive pain in the ass to get one, because you'd probably have to mail a check to some Amish mail order company and wait a month, but now I can just click over to Amazon and get it in two days.

10 months ago

wizzwizz4

It might also be increased awareness of changes. There are many things in my personal history that I viewed as normal, constant things, but that were actually changing significantly all the while I was learning about their natures.

10 months ago

balaji1

Your phrasing is also super interesting.

> mental models of the world tend to solidify as we age

Mental models solidifying over time might be true. But "acceleration" is a shared experience for entire generations (of peers). It seems a broad enough experience that it is more than perceived. Like a grandma is content to read books instead of being on top of HN, etc.

Solidified mental models also gives perspective on life and its direction. And people tend to converge on few similar timeless mental models on a meta level.

> long range compounding effects of technology

It's correct, most modern systems are enabled by better tech at its root. But the collective will of humanity (at least right now) is to leverage tech to push it further. Instead of a sinusoid where we take time to fix unintended side-effects we created (like pollution, resource depletion, re-assess education, etc).

10 months ago

ilyt

Sure but there is definitely more access to info about what is happening in the world so stuff someone might've had simplistic view on 20 years ago now can be researched and looked at by anyone that wants.

I also think the fact many people work in not really all that creatively stimulating jobs to begin with have a lot of effect on that. When you are at school you learn something new every day and are occasionally facing different mental challenges, when you work at retail not really.

10 months ago

Tomte

See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartmut_Rosa

A German sociologist who coined the Akzelerationszirkel (circle of acceleration).

10 months ago

pessimizer

I think this a problem that LLMs can help with. If you feed them your goals, they can give you a program back, and adjust that program based on changing circumstances.

10 months ago

helmholtz

Oh my god can we just have radio silence from fucking LLMs on one thread please!

10 months ago

hillcrestenigma

Applying LLMs or AI to our schedules isn't an unreasonable idea. If it could improve our own productivity even just slightly, I would consider that a win. It would be democratizing the effects of value add from traditional assistants to everyone.

I think good ideas sometimes come from connecting two concepts that seem unrelated, and we shouldn't really silence any of these ideas.

10 months ago

Graffur

Hey there. That reply doesn't seem to vibe with how HN works.

10 months ago

dredmorbius

Whilst that's true regards the word of the law in terms of HN guidelines, it's arguably not in the spirit, which is "curious conversation on topics of intellectual interest". In that light, LLM / GPT solutionism is rapidly converging with blockchain / bitcoin / NFT as exceedingly stale and not conducive to productive discussion.

That's not to say that there's nothing meriting discussion on these topics. But noting that X is "a problem that LLM could help with" ... without detailing the specific advantage over alternatives ... isn't especially enlightening.

10 months ago

rchaud

If anything, the HN guidelines need to be updated to discourage "AI use case-bro" comments.

10 months ago

Graffur

I think you might be in the wrong place. You're annoyed that people are discussing a 6-month old promising technology on _hacker_ news?

10 months ago

helmholtz

Its a thread titled "List one task, do it, cross it out"

The words LLM, AI, Sam Altman or OpenAI appear nowhere. I don't mind hypebros discussing LLMs somewhere meant for it. I hate that they do it every bloody where. It's like the crypto bros from a few years ago. "Uhhhh, this would be a great candidate for blockchain bro".

10 months ago

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10 months ago

rchaud

Indeed I am. It's not an AI topic, so a comment of the "use an LLM for this" variety is no more enlightening than a "here's how blockchain can help" comment on a non-blockchain topic was 5 years ago.

10 months ago

lars_francke

This is why I use Amazing Marvin. While far from perfect it has a deceptively simple feature: Give me a random task from this list.

It frees me from deciding between multiple equally important things to do. And it helps tremendously by forcing myself to then do this thing before moving on because I finally do those things that I have been procrastinating on.

Back when I last checked four or so years ago very few or no Todo tools had this feature.

10 months ago

zmmmmm

An interesting corollary to this is how toxic latency is to productivity.

If in attempting to do "one thing" I get blocked for say, 2 minutes - what then? The answer is, I switch to something else. But now, I'm not doing "one thing". And now I get blocked on "thing two". So I'm doing 3 things. It's not long before I'm doing nothing at all, all my energy is in context switching, and I feel burned out, mentally exhausted and unproductive.

Hence why in everything I do, I try to kill latency in the process.

10 months ago

satisfice

I guess I'm the only one to speak up for the silent majority:

I say: No!

Take your cognitive reductionism and shove it. Take your mechanical life hacks to your Mars colony, if you want to, but I'll stay on the green hills of Earth and live a natural, flowing life.

Advice like this is tossed out as if there is no cost to following it. The cost is self-alienation! This is a practice that encourages self-enslavement!

My super-ego is not the boss of me. Respect your procrastination, man. Procrastination is a message from your unconscious. Ignore it at your peril.

10 months ago

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10 months ago

weakfish

What?

10 months ago

DavidPiper

I think OP is suggesting that commoditising, tracking, sequencing and optimising your actions (i.e. productivity culture) comes at the expense of your emotions, wants and "natural life", which is a Bad Thing™ - while also not acknowledging that a complete disregard for discipline or optimisation of life's tasks might also lead to Bad Things™ (e.g. lost time, failed/unfinished creative endeavours, unnecessary external stress, etc).

In general, this has always felt like the Golden Mean[1] problem to me - or for the Nietzsche fans, the conflict between our Apollonian and the Dionysian[2] urges.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_mean_(philosophy)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche#Apollonian...

10 months ago

slobotron

TFA says the task could be procrastination too

> And don't forget that it could be "take a nap"!

10 months ago

satisfice

Do you honestly think that my procrastination, or any other activity, needs permission from a list? There is nothing of substance that comes from writing something down, doing it, and crossing it off. It's a ritual of submission to your executive function. That submission has a price.

Look, I'm making an appeal to you, guys. This is called "Hacker News." Have all you Hackers gone corporate? Maybe you don't agree with me, but is my point really merely "self-absorbed" or "stupid" as one wag has put it?

10 months ago

CyanBird

You need to check your own privileges

Not everyone has had the luxuries of your life, some people need to actually work hard to get somewhere in life

Don't overgeneralize your experiences into others

10 months ago

yadingus

It's just a tool, like a hammer. You can misuse a hammer and hit your finger, or you can grab it, hit a nail and be done.

10 months ago

realjudgeholden

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10 months ago

geerlingguy

For me, I loved the idea of WIP in the agile system we adapted at one workplace:

Instead of one thing, we would allow up to two WIP projects per person, but there was a priority and a follow-up.

I still do this day to day with Trello.

I have a "Doing" column and what's on top is what I'm doing. Besides procrastination, I don't allow myself to do anything else until that's done. Sometimes I add a checklist inside that Trello card if it's a more complex task, then check off tasks one by one.

The second card can be worked on if absolutely necessary (like lining up a meeting or working on some background that's required a month beforehand).

10 months ago

layer8

Besides procrastination??? Isn’t procrastination the most difficult issue? ;)

10 months ago

geerlingguy

Haha yes... but I've learned just to live with it. I don't know why, but I kinda have to devote 20-40% of my week to procrastination.

Otherwise I would have no karma on HN!

10 months ago

roeles

One very effective procrastination avoidance technique I recently came across was giving yourself a simple choice: do the next thing on your list or do absolutely nothing until you feel good enough to do that task. Seems to work wonders.

10 months ago

Rainymood

I have one notebook that I carry around where I list tasks just in order to cross them out. There is something so viscerally satisfying in crossing out a task that just provides so much momentum to whatever I'm doing. There's just something beautiful about making the implicit explicit and then striking it through.

10 months ago

ghaff

I have been known to list a bunch of sometimes fairly trivial stuff I need to do in a day in my notebook calendar. And it is very satisfying to cross a half-dozen things off.

10 months ago

superposeur

I use a variation of this I call now-and-next: write down a “now” task and “next” task, do the “now” task, switch “next” to “now”, write a new “next” task, and repeat.

My spouse saw me doing this and adopted the technique. When things get overwhelming, we say: “let’s now-and-next it”.

10 months ago

Johnny555

I did it, but I'm stuck in a loop:

̶L̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶t̶a̶s̶k̶

̶L̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶t̶a̶s̶k̶

̶L̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶t̶a̶s̶k̶

List one task

10 months ago

layer8

How do you even get to “cross it out”?

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

They AOT-compiled the instructions, and only then started executing.

10 months ago

totetsu

- task

do it

𝗂̶𝗍̶

10 months ago

dilippkumar

100% compliance achieved.

10 months ago

karmakaze

I've heard this similarly expressed as "Eating the Frog"[0] which is the singular version of "Warren Buffet's Two Lists"[1].

[0] https://todoist.com/productivity-methods/eat-the-frog

[1] https://jamesclear.com/buffett-focus

10 months ago

jstanley

If it works for you, great, but the reason I like to write down all of the tasks is so that I can let go of them in my mind. If I am only allowed to write down one task, I'm forced to memorise the rest of the tasks.

10 months ago

Sakos

I think the reasonable solution would be to have a place to record all the possible tasks you have available, but you only go to it when you add things or need a new task. Have it separate from your todo/doing list, so you don't always have an endless list of tasks smacking you in the face.

10 months ago

girafffe_i

This rang true at a very deep level. Thanks for linking.

I just put this into similar words for the first time this week. It's the ambiguous priority that kills my productivity. It's debilitating and overwhelming. "Just do one thing. Any thing." Is something that I've been focusing on, even though I have had past feedback about prioritizing the wrong things, it's better than nothing.

10 months ago

krm01

Does anyone who recognizes himself in the persona of the article have any insights into handling long todo lists. I understand the idea if listing one task, but you inevitably have a list of dozens of stuff. So even if you make a seperate list with one to focus on, I seem to push down certain things for ever. Tending to pock and choose the easy or very urgent ones.

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

Seconding.

'thestepafter replied that "if it’s important enough to you then you will give it the time it needs", and this is technically true, but the trick is in the term "important enough". Some things are rationally important to me, but become barely noticeable emotionally (recent thought: it seems to be partly caused, or at least correlated, with the very act of putting them on the TODO list) - and remain so until I find myself in the middle of a crisis caused by endlessly delaying them. Like a flip of a switch, they suddenly become priority #1. At that point, I either give up, cross them out and take a hit, or finally deal with them, at the expense of whatever it was I was doing at the moment.

It's a really dumb pattern, but one I can't seem to break myself out. Random example - illustrative enough, but on the lighter side (as in: it often happens to tasks with much bigger consequences of failure): fixing things around the house. A broken child's toy, or misaligned piece of furniture, this kind of stuff. If I feel it'll take more than 20 minutes of concentrated effort, it ends up on the list, and... remains not done, even as my wife occasionally reminds me about it, until eventually she's so frustrated by it that I start to feel really bad, at which point the task suddenly becomes so important that I drop everything and finally get it done. For some reason, until such moment, I never feel like I can afford those 20+ minutes of focus and effort.

(Outside view: half the time, the task turns out to require less than 5 minutes of actual effort. But often enough, such 20 minute job turns out to be a half-day job. It seems that my mind tends to assume that second case will happen 100% of the time.)

10 months ago

yadingus

Yes, it sounds dumb, but just don't. Make shorter lists.

I can only speak for myself of course, but I had this problem and I observed a few things:

- Some tasks just don't get done even if they've been listed. They are clutter.

- Some tasks don't really need to be on the list, you'll get them done anyway.

- Tasks should be actionable, and they should be considered emotionally, not just conceptually

Sometimes I'd sit down with only the intention of making a list, and then tasks come flooding into my mind, but after a while of struggling I had to observe myself and be honest, which led to paying attention to how these lists made me feel, the items but also the length.

At the end of the day a todo list is not just a conceptual list of things that belong on a todo list, it is an aid, and as such it should be actionable. If looking at it causes you stress because it's too long, it might be more accurate in what data is storing, but it is ineffective because you don't want to even look at it.

10 months ago

euroderf

An "Actionable" list can be a short list, but a "Worth remembering" list can be very very long. Containing those things that only come to mind a couple of times a year, but when one does, it's like "Dang, I keep forgetting that".

Make sure you have a Kitchen Sink list, and give it a good long glance once a season.

10 months ago

yadingus

I do actually have a "never" list, which is stuff that's so loaded emotionally it just lived permanently in my todo, and I resolved that if an item is there for like weeks, I can move it to another list.

The thing is I almost never look at it, so the point is really just to offload emotionally at the moment of deleting these tasks from the main todo.

Or maybe there's some psychological component I haven't learned yet for how to actually tackle one of these tasks.

10 months ago

thestepafter

I’ve heard it said that if it’s important enough to you then you will give it the time it needs. Either spending time with certain people or when working. For long lists, pick the task that’s most important to complete and do it. Then pick the next most important task and repeat.

10 months ago

krm01

From experience what ends up happening sometimes, and the reason why I asked, is that pushing some tasks down for too long you end up working on them too late. Causing more problems later.

10 months ago

lostdog

"Final version perfected" is a trick for digesting long Todo lists. I've used it a couple times to make a long list manageable.

10 months ago

gareve

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10 months ago

trafnar

This works really well for me too. I built a task tracker tool (tasktxt.com) that has built-in timers for each task so you choose a task, then press "start" and now you feel more committed to doing that one particular task. It helps me focus on one task at a time.

10 months ago

drigbye

This looks great. Going to try it out! Where do you store your weekly tasks and/or backlog of tasks?

10 months ago

leobabauta

I like it, will give it a try!

Can you make an option to only show the task being timed, for greater focus?

10 months ago

benatkin

I've found the advice to remember that you "only ever actually be doing one thing" not to be very broadly applicable. It's good advice for some situations like driving a car, but for things like writing code while responding to the occasional Slack message, it's not specific enough to constitute good advice.

Still, it's true, when understood properly, and maybe I just need to study it more to put it into practice.

10 months ago

abbadadda

If you can, close slack while writing code - someone will call or tap you on the shoulder if there is an emergency.

10 months ago

darth_aardvark

When I'm on call, I've got to respond to slack messages in 4 different channels with a 1hour slo . Messages responded to outside the SLO get brought up at perf review. This isn't viable for some of us.

10 months ago

1_1xdev1

That’s a pretty tough gig.

What’s your title?

Are you expected to write code while “on call”?

10 months ago

darth_aardvark

Senior software engineer at a small company that was a startup but went public in 2021.

And yes, code productivity is expected to be unaffected. And yeah, I'm looking for a new job.

10 months ago

ilyt

But that's worse!

10 months ago

benatkin

Indeed, exactly my experience. =)

10 months ago

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10 months ago

barbariangrunge

This algorithm works well if you know what to do next. And how to do it. And when you have what you need to do it, or know when you’ll get it. And you’re sure it’s the right thing and you won’t second guess it as you go. And you didn’t forget something important like exercise or personal time. And your body/emotions are ready the same time you need them to be. Which is often, but not always

10 months ago

sebmellen

Perhaps the most enlightened period of my life was the two weeks after I first took psychedelics.

My biggest realization while under the influence was that my attention (and accompanying focus) was substantially similar to a laser beam: when directed to a single point, it could obliterate anything in its path. I also realized that I spent the majority of each day splitting this laser beam up into hundreds of smaller beams which had no ‘obliterating’ effect on the tasks they were meant to be ‘doing’.

For about two weeks afterwards, I had an incredibly Zen state of mind, where it became abundantly clear in every moment exactly what I should be doing. I would then do only that until it was done. The visual was always very clear — I was manifesting the superpower of fully directing the laser of my attention.

Somehow I lost that state of mind, but I am always seeking to reattain it. The ease with which I progressed through tasks during that period, and the amount that I accomplished was, and is, incomparable to any other period in my life.

Ever since, I’ve firmly believed that prioritization is the single biggest hurdle to getting things done. Effective prioritization is incredibly hard, and seems to require deep intuition. Prioritizing based on logical facts is near impossible, because you will necessarily spend more time deciding what to focus on than actually focusing on tasks. There is some trick that I believe incredibly productive people employ (whether consciously or not) that allows them to fully leverage their intuition for good prioritization.

When you really dig down into it, basically every business is simply a chain of priorities, and the businesses that prioritize better win in the long term. The same goes for scientific discoveries, and really any form of genius. The tricky part is innately understanding how to do prioritization without it taking up more time than the tasks you’re trying to prioritize, a gift, I was somehow temporarily granted by the mushroom.

10 months ago

yadingus

I believe it's not often talked about how important intuition is, for everything in life, and this does include productivity. But I think for intuition to flourish you need a special type of freedom of thought and low stress, which might clash with certain work hierarchies and mindsets.

To satisfy my curiosity, have you taken mushrooms again to see if you can get that back? And have you tried microdosing?

10 months ago

sebmellen

I have taken them since, but I get something completely new and different each time.

The “lessons” are ephemeral and effortless. The work that follows the trip is very effortful: trying to repeatably (i.e. without drugs) attain what the mushroom showed was possible. That’s the hard part, but it’s also the real reason to do mushrooms — they are a kind of aspirational drug that leaves you searching — only you’re not searching for a new high, you’re searching for ways to apply what the mushroom taught you. It’s a very beautiful process.

At least, that’s how I see it!

10 months ago

yadingus

Absolutely, the word is integration and it's not discussed enough. It can happen with LSD and other psychedelics too, but you have to be open to that and not consider them just party drugs, as many people do.

Very rewarding too if you can find a therapist that knows about these processes and can help you along.

10 months ago

pengaru

> What's true of both the crisis situation and the daily situation is that at any given moment, you can only ever actually be doing one thing.

Sometimes you can organize your work such that while yes, technically you're just doing one activity, you're making progress on multiple todo entries simultaneously.

I think that's an important facet of effective "multi-tasking"; it has more to do with how you organize your work than being good at context switching. Sortof akin to enabling SIMD use by organizing the data such that it's applicable.

A practical example is I have this long-term excavation/grading project on my property that needs eventual doing. The dirt here is mostly sand, and I often mix stucco/concrete for projects. By deliberately sourcing the dirt from areas I need to excavate anyways, I'm making progress on the grading project when I'm making pavers or whatever needing sand.

10 months ago

Lornedon

Exactly.

Another everyday example is doing laundry. After I load up the washing machine, it's going to run for 2 hours. I can "multi-task" by doing something else in the meantime, which doesn't really follow the one-item-list principle from the post.

10 months ago

ghaff

I'm absolutely not a productivity system person but there are a few Getting Things Done suggestions that resonate with me (even if I don't always follow them).

If you can do something quickly and have the time, just do it.

(Also appreciate that certain things may lead to other things and that your 5-minute task may be opening up a can of worms. But if it's an expense report, probably just do it already.)

Break projects into actionable sub-tasks. Now, mind you, I may not be sure about one or more aspects of the project--and even if I need to do it at all--and find it's OK just to let it sit on a list even if that's somehow taking up brain space.

Separate calendar and to do list. (I do list rough to dos in my paper weekly calendar but don't list them on my electronic calendar unless they really have to happen on a particular day.)

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

I used to love GTD. I've been using it - or rather trying to use it, then increasingly personalized variations of it - for almost two decades. I still appreciate the wisdom there, but I wish someone would've told me 15 years ago that it assumes a certain way your brain is wired. Maybe it's good for the majority, but it still sucks to be the one with a brain that requires inverting or replacing some of the book's ideas.

Like, keeping your head clear is a wonderful selling point, but externalizing all the tasks also makes them no longer feel like they matter much. Keeping a list of projects and next actions is a good idea in theory, but much harder to benefit from in practice, when your visual system starts erasing the TODO list from your visual field, like it was a piece of negative space, an external equivalent of the blind spot in your eyes.

> But if it's an expense report, probably just do it already.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I've never had an expense report that took me less than 2 hours to complete. Usually it's half a day, as it involves scanning and attaching receipts.

> Break projects into actionable sub-tasks.

To this day I have a really big problem with the "actionable" part. My attempts always end with tasks that are either too big (and therefore too scary), underspecified (actionable, but not to completion - always getting blocked by something mid-way), or overspecified (20 steps, half of which take less time to get done than it took to write them down, and getting 1/3 through the steps usually invalidates most of the rest anyway). I just don't know how to get to that magic point of actionable tasks that you can just pick and do.

> Separate calendar and to do list.

This is interesting in that for people with ADHD, this advice gets reversed: it's more important to have one system for everything, as the more of them you have, the less likely it is you'll actually use any of them. Don't know how widely this applies, but it's definitely true for me.

10 months ago

ilyt

I kinda wish for a mix of todo/calendar system where I could say, for example "remind me of this maintenance task in 6 months" and it would disappear out of anything directly visible for that 6 months then pop up in todo list without due date, as just a thing to do.

Calendars are good for stuff that needs to be done at this exact date and hour but not great if it is just some routine maintenance task that can be easily shifted a month in any direction (say "replace oil and filters on car")

10 months ago

ghaff

> I kinda wish for a mix of todo/calendar system

I imagine there are various ways you can do this with existing tools. I just mostly find it useful to separate calendaring from needs to be done in the next month or two from bigger/more aspirational/not fully defined projects. So I generally (if loosely) separate them into different spaces.

The main thing IMO is not to put stuff with loose (and maybe never) dates on your calendar where you now have 50 overdue items on your calendar which just encourages never wrapping anything up. (Worked with someone like that once.)

10 months ago

TeMPOraL

> The main thing IMO is not to put stuff with loose (and maybe never) dates on your calendar where you now have 50 overdue items on your calendar which just encourages never wrapping anything up.

Thank you. This killed all my attempts at planning using Org Mode and agenda views. I'd schedule a few things for the day, and then invariably fail to do half of them, and then they would show up on next day's agenda, sorting above that day's planned tasks, and displayed with emphasis. This was both distracting and created an "emotional repulsion field" for the agenda view, leading to more tasks not completed, and a week down the line, my agenda view would have 20+ items due days ago.

The second-to-last time around, I started pushing due dates on those incomplete tasks into the future. But this didn't help anything - soon enough, I'd be staring at an incoming blast wave of random uncompleted tasks, which I then had to push back again some more. The system eventually collapsed under the emotional weight.

Last time around, I forced myself to simply unschedule such incomplete tasks - remove due dates from them entirely. But that only cut to the thing I still haven't figured out (one of many such things): how to represent tasks that have some temporal component to them, but a fuzzy or flexible one. Like, "do X anywhere between next Friday and Tuesday in the week after - but I don't want to be reminded of X before that very Friday". Or, "do X somewhere between September and November".

Basically, trying to walk a narrow line between the system being not specific enough to be useful, and being so overwhelming that it actually makes everything worse.

10 months ago

ilyt

I was actually pretty happy with Org mode except that one teeeny problem of it being only really usable in Emacs as everything else using that format missed this or that feature that I wanted/used.

> Thank you. This killed all my attempts at planning using Org Mode and agenda views. I'd schedule a few things for the day, and then invariably fail to do half of them, and then they would show up on next day's agenda, sorting above that day's planned tasks, and displayed with emphasis. This was both distracting and created an "emotional repulsion field" for the agenda view, leading to more tasks not completed, and a week down the line, my agenda view would have 20+ items due days ago.

org-mode kinda worked for me. It had SCHEDULED and DEADLINE types, first being basically "when I can start doing something" (maintenance etc.), second being "when I NEED to do it" (pay bills etc). Sometimes both.

I didn't use timestamps at all for most tasks, just priority, those were basically mostly for long term stuff or monthly-repeatable

> But this didn't help anything - soon enough, I'd be staring at an incoming blast wave of random uncompleted tasks, which I then had to push back again some more. The system eventually collapsed under the emotional weight.

That just sounds like amount of tasks was higher than time available, no system gonna fix that.

I actually found the org-mode showing how many times a given scheduled date was missed was fair indicator whether to look at that task or whether it should be there at all.

10 months ago

ghaff

My approach, quite frankly, has been either my weekly hardcopy calendar or the whiteboard in my kitchen. And keeping my Google Calendar as a calendar. So I have my actual calendar and things I need to deal with at some point in the near or indefinite future. Not saying it's the right approach but virtual/physical separation works for me.

10 months ago

ilyt

> I imagine there are various ways you can do this with existing tools

Yeah but I'd like same functionality to be accessible from mobile, my Linux machine GUI and CLI so entirely PITA to make. And honestly I already have too many "fix my own itch" projects...

10 months ago

mejutoco

Todoist does exactly that. You can also say "every day at 12:00 for a week" or "every second sun of the month".

10 months ago

ghaff

>Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I've never had an expense report that took me less than 2 hours to complete.

For a big international trip, it can definitely take a while. But I also have a lot of monthly cell phone bill, went into town for a customer visit, etc. that really don't take very long. (They're still more of a hassle than I'd like but they have to be done and they're pretty quick.)

ADDED: I do get the unification aspect, but I personally like the separation between this has to happen on or by this date, needs to get done within some reasonable time horizon, and maybe/someday projects.

10 months ago

POiNTx

I used to do this. Not anymore as I feel I can do it without having to write it down nowadays.

I even wrote a little app for it: https://todo.wout.space/

10 months ago

lelanthran

I made a tool to help me do exactly this! I even made a HN post about it, after making some HN comments about how well it is working for me.

(It's https://github.com/lelanthran/frame/blob/master/docs/FrameIn... in case anyone is interested).

10 months ago

chrisgd

I think lists also serve the purpose of getting your tasks out on paper. If I am working on 4 projects, I need to be constantly reminded of those tasks and need to break them down into smaller tasks. Getting Things Done is an effective method, but all of these things, including this method, require real effort. There is just no way around the fact that there is effort required.

10 months ago

another_story

Does the issue here lie in not focusing on a singular thing, or allowing yourself to get stressed about the things you're expected to do? If you're constantly worrying about your todo list then maybe you should look at why that is, instead.

- Is your list too long?

- Should you even make a list?

- Is the stress based on your own, possibly unhealthy, expectations.

10 months ago

ignoramous

  A common failure mode for companies like these is to talk a lot about how hard their problems are and never get anything at all done. Even a huge project starts with a first step. We look for founders that get that one done, and then the second, and ...
  
  Good founders get stuff done. Bad founders talk about why they aren't getting stuff done. This is true for web apps and nuclear reactors. 
- sama, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11315858

See also: Doing 3 Most Important Tasks at a time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3555581

10 months ago

stagas

This reminds me of the Chaos programming model[0], the idea is you just work on whatever is (seemingly) the most important issue you encounter, without any higher level planning. Usually at the end of some work or integration there are tons of tiny issues that are best addressed like that. Whatever you see, that becomes the primary task now, no considerations. It raises the quality of the project overall.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_model

10 months ago

xivzgrev

I think this is a half baked approach.

It sounds nice. Think of something worthwhile. Do it. Repeat. Awesome.

There’s two main issues I see 1) there’s no connectedness. You could spend your life swirling in different directions instead of focused in one. Ironic given this technique is supposed to help you focus. 2) there’s no consideration for timing. I might think of 5 worthwhile things now, but what if I choose the one that can be done anytime because it’s fun, vs the one that needs to be done by tomorrow? It seems quite easy for some important deadlines (that I’ve committed to) to slip!

10 months ago

xigency

> In an emergency, that whole tangle of self-absorption lifts, because "what needs to be done" is usually so obvious that nobody, not even my inner critic, could reasonably disagree. For a certain kind of person – and I'm definitely one of them – this total absence of ambivalence feels freeing, even disconcertingly elating, never mind the fact that what's unfolding around me is unquestionably bad.

As someone else who runs toward disasters, this really resonates.

10 months ago

doktorhladnjak

Me too. I’ve never thought about it this way before but it resonates. I like being involved in an operational incident. Everyone is focused on one problem that must be solved.

10 months ago

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10 months ago

hartator

> such as (to give a somewhat minor example) the day last year, deep in lockdown, when a shard of flying flowerpot ended up halfway through my partner's hand, sending her to hospital and upending our finely calibrated work and childcare plans for the week.

Author needs to realize this is a basic execution skill that most people have. Author is probably on the spectrum (like most of us here are).

10 months ago

klyrs

The waterfall approach plus tunnel vision. Highly effective for getting things done in a team of one with no overarching goals.

10 months ago

jdrmar

Almost my philosophy! Except I do list multiple tasks at the start of the day, but the next day I do a complete reset and start over again (see https://can.do/about if you’re interested)

10 months ago

raman162

I would say it's less about listing one task, but focusing on doing the most important task at one point in time.

I loved the book four thousand weeks, refreshing reminder that we have limited time and attention and prioritization is the most important thing.

10 months ago

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10 months ago

geniium

Writing only one thing down would raise my fear of missing something out that needs to be done.

I like to have some kind of backlog of tasks to do, and clean that up regularly and start fresh with a daily list of tasks to do.

10 months ago

Sammi

Often when I feel stressed out by stuff I need to do, I just list it all out on paper on in a .txt. I'm not an organized person in general, so I have strong aversion to doing so. But I find that once I do I finally feel clarity and can immediately see what is the most important thing I should be doing right now, and I feel at ease that the other tasks are not forgotten.

10 months ago

sidcool

Is there a relation between the quality of content and the ratio of posts' points to the number of comments (beyond a certain threshold)?

10 months ago

koinedad

This is what I do, except I sometimes list a few things because I know I need to do more than just one thing in the near future

10 months ago

larsrc

Same here, using a bullet journal took a lot of strain off my mind. Now I wonder if I could adapt this advice to it.

10 months ago

osigurdson

If just one thing, it seems unnecessary to write it down.

10 months ago

jen729w

Burkeman has a lovely series on Sam Harris’ ‘Waking Up’ app. It’s based on his book, which is also lovely, but isn’t just him reading it.

Free month here. No benefit to me.

https://dynamic.wakingup.com/shareOpenAccess/SC80D94AB

10 months ago

0zemp3c

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10 months ago

ftxbro

ok but if anyone sees your weird little list of normal activities that have been written down and crossed out they are going to suspect some kind of pathological loss of executive function, i'm not saying that's how it should be, but that's what they are going to actually assume

10 months ago