Mouser: An open source alternative to Logi-Plus mouse software

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1/21/1970
4 days ago
by avionics-guy

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pier25

The Logi Options app is such a piece of crap. On macOS it also requires special permissions otherwise it won't even work.

If you only need to connect a device to the Bolt adapter you can use this web app by Logitech without having to install anything:

https://logiwebconnect.com/

4 days ago

y-curious

My friend used to work at Logitech. Everyone in the trenches knows the software they pump out is trash, but the higher ups are somehow convinced that it “sets them apart”. I assume they think it sets them apart in a good way, but it’s quite the opposite.

4 days ago

wincy

That’s sad to hear, I remember how good Logitech was back in the mid-2000s, the Logitech G15 keyboard had 18 programmable macro buttons and a media LED screen and media buttons that had a custom plugins SDK for stuff like Winamp, so I could listen to all my pirated music without having to alt+tab out of World of Warcraft. I used that thing until most of the letters had worn off the keycaps.

Around 2009 or so my Logitech wired laser mouse died after years of heavy use, and I emailed them about it, they sent me a brand new mouse, their newest top of the line model with no hassle at all. I’m not even sure it was still under warranty.

3 days ago

m-p-3

I dread the day my Logitech G13 stops working..

3 days ago

dinfinity

Keychron keyboards are absolutely amazing. And very affordable for what they are.

3 days ago

hypercube33

Feels like every mouse, keyboard, webcam whatever needs a separate different bloated app to configure and they even then don't have all of the settings. Hopefully I'm crazy but it also feels like they are even getting worse over time.

It's not just Logitech I have seen other vendors with app sprawl. Lenovo has duplicate or triplicate apps that do the same things or are wired into drivers and some are just a front end for tools they claim the new are replacements for. Wild stuff

3 days ago

make3

I don't know why it's still a respected brand when everything they do is mid at best

2 days ago

userbinator

On macOS it also requires special permissions otherwise it won't even work.

That doesn't sound unusual for something that interacts directly with hardware.

4 days ago

lmz

Also any app-specific bindings would I guess require some hooking (input interception / injection) at the software level.

4 days ago

pier25

System wide permissions 24/7 even when you're not configuring the USB devices?

3 days ago

mschuster91

Anyone not living under the rock for the last decades uses libusb. No need for special permissions at all, you can even use WebUSB in browsers these days.

All you need is competent firmware and driver engineers.

3 days ago

matheusmoreira

I used libusb for my laptop's keyboard LED driver and it absolutely does require root access. At least it works instantly and exits afterwards, unlike the manufacturer's shitty app.

3 days ago

atonse

I’ve been using SteerMouse as an alternative for years. It completely disappears and works 100% of the time.

4 days ago

someguyiguess

I absolutely DO NOT want software that completely disappears. No thanks.

3 days ago

atonse

Let me be clear. What I meant is that it is just a System Settings pref pane (as I feel it should be). There's no icon just sitting in my system tray taking up space. There isn't any obnoxious launcher that launches on boot up.

It's exactly what (In my opinion) a mouse utility should be. There when you need it, invisible 99.9% of the time.

3 days ago

jagged-chisel

It should be ever-present. It should make itself known. It should be like an IT guy who’s competent, but eager. It should keep you informed of every update, just like he should keep informed of every new thing he learns.

3 days ago

sheiyei

It should at least have a system-jamming 15 second startup sequence at bootup to be taken seriously. That's why Logitech does it

3 days ago

Reason077

The Mac software for my Logitech mouse is called "Logitech G Hub" and it's also pretty awful. Every now and then my Mac starts going bonkers, random clicks all over the place or windows randomly switching focus. Quitting the Logitech G Hub app instantly solves it. (I'm not sure why it wants to run all the time anyway, it's only needed if I want to change some settings on the mouse)

The mouse itself (G305) is great, however!

4 days ago

vladvasiliu

Why do you have that running? I have two old g700s's, had another g703 (I think?) for a while. They have onboard memory, contrary to the "normal" non-gaming Logitech mice, so whatever configuration you set on them, they'll remember it without any software.

3 days ago

Reason077

Exactly! It wants to stay running constantly as a menu bar app, but I don't think there's any reason why that helps me. As you say, the mouse has a built in memory to remember its settings.

I guess it might have something to do with the ability to set custom mouse profiles for different games, but I don't need/use that feature.

3 days ago

sheiyei

I ran my G402 on the onboard memory (bound the special buttons to F13-F15) until I was faced with enough games that didn't understand those keys. Later I had to switch to per-game profiles which sucked

3 days ago

stanac

It's probably the only program I despise, but need. I want to use small button under the wheel as middle click (I have short fingers), and until now, the only way to do it is/was to use logi options+. LO+ updater will get stuck on update every couple of months and while it's updating my button configuration doesn't work. Solution? kill process, uninstall, reinstall and hope it will not get stuck again any time soon.

I have to test Mauser.

While I am here, can anyone recommend good alternative mouse with both smooth/quick and precision scroll like logitech's? Back and forth buttons are also a must for me, horizontal scroll optional. Ideally a mouse would save configuration onto itself, so I don't have rely on garbage software like LO+.

4 days ago

k12sosse

The scroll isn't anything special but you might find something that works for you (there's a large lineup), corsair make an ok mouse that can save multiple hardware profiles, and is programmable with input remapping and macros, etc.

4 days ago

dostick

Reassign the button - maybe possible with Karabiner

3 days ago

stevenpetryk

I'm always afraid of the day Logitech takes this away. Somebody should try to make an open source deploy of this too.

4 days ago

pvab3

Chrome or Edge only it says

4 days ago

locusofself

It really is a terrible piece of software. I usually find that when I do weird things with my mouse, like assign workspaces switching to extra buttons or whatever, I end up un-doing it.

I've switched all my mice to a ~$25, super ergonomically shaped, corded mouse[1], and I prefer to to my logitech mice.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FPAVUHC?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_...

3 days ago

nvardakas

The fact that Logitech ships hardware this good with software this bad is wild. It's like they have two completely separate companies. I switched to just using the onboard memory profiles on my mouse and never opening the app not ideal but at least nothing is eating 40% of my CPU in the background.

3 days ago

matheusmoreira

It's unfortunately the norm for hardware companies. My laptop's manufacturer shipped a "control center" app so bad it takes around a minute to display a window on screen. Words can't describe how aggravating it was to use. Reverse engineering that piece of crap is one of the best things I've ever done.

3 days ago

nvardakas

The control center apps are always the worst offenders. It's bizarre that a company can nail the hardware engineering and then ship companion software that feels like it was written as an intern's first project. At least with open source alternatives like Mouser you can just bypass the whole thing. I wonder how many people have switched mice entirely just because of bad software.

a day ago

leptons

>It's like they have two completely separate companies.

The hardware and software teams are definitely separate, with likely very little overlap. It's the way most companies work. The team at Microsoft that gave us "clippy" was not the same team that worked on NT Kernal.

3 days ago

taneq

This is standard. :P EE code, like programmer art and mechanical engineer circuits, shows just how non-multidisciplinary most humans are. :D

3 days ago

hulitu

SW engineer's crap has way more levels of abstractions. /s

2 days ago

car

For posterity, I can very much recommend MacMousefix. It's $2.99 to own, totally worth it to me. Open source.

https://macmousefix.com/en/

Also available via brew:

  brew install mac-mouse-fix
And on Github too:

https://github.com/noah-nuebling/mac-mouse-fix

4 days ago

p2detar

On the fun side: can this thing help me do left-click burst in browser HTML5 games? I tried hammerspoon and other methods but nothing worked thus far.

3 days ago

gumby271

That's pretty cool, I've been wanting something like this so I don't have to reach for the touchpad on my Mac all the time. But I gotta say, I did NOT expect to be scrolling in the Z axis all of a sudden on that site!

4 days ago

sheiyei

The site is a good example of looking good but being very annoying to use.

3 days ago

mrsssnake

> You may not charge users money for Your Program, and Your Source must contain the monetization systems, including the licensing, trial period tracking, and payment system, present in the MMF Source without an alterations, and all of these systems must be active and working as intended in Your Program.

License is not Open Source.

11 hours ago

y-curious

Is there anything like this for the MX Ergo? I would be very interested in any software-based “hacks” for the mouse.

4 days ago

wlesieutre

You could also try out a Steermouse free trial, it has MX Ergo S on the recommended mice list, so MX Ero is a maybe

https://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/

I don’t have a mouse on my Mac now (trackpad too good) but Steermouse has been around for about 25 years and I used it for many of those. Way less awful than the Logitech software.

4 days ago

Eric_WVGG

SteerMouse is legendary. I think it’s been around since Jaguar? Case study in getting it right the first time.

4 days ago

wlesieutre

Not quite as old as I remembered, their About page puts it at 2005. But yes it's a remarkably long lasting product.

https://steermouse.com/about-us/

Funny how 20 years ago Logitech's software sucked enough for me to pay for an alternative, and two decades later Logitech's software still sucks enough for people to pay for an alternative.

4 days ago

y-curious

Thank you!

2 days ago

voltaireodactyl

Steermouse fills this gap brilliantly. Covers every device I’ve ever tried and I have some significant exotics.

4 days ago

lwhi

I tried this, and it's nice .. but it did let me programme all the buttons on my Logitech MX Vertical.

4 days ago

TyrunDemeg101

Holy crap, just tried this and I was skeptical, but it sold me within minutes. This truly is great!

4 days ago

flexagoon

For Linux users, there is Piper[1] based on their libratbag library[2], which supports the majority of mice

[1]: https://github.com/libratbag/piper/

[2]: https://github.com/libratbag/libratbag

4 days ago

ASalazarMX

4 days ago

psibi

And logiops too: https://github.com/PixlOne/logiops

I recently purchased the MX Master 4, and it was easy to remap the gesture buttons and configure features like SmartShift and high-resolution scrolling.

3 days ago

whalesalad

I use this to manage my unifying receiver. I don't think I have touched it once in years, just works.

4 days ago

sys_64738

Agreed. I found it so avoided having to install the Logitech spyware anywhere. I won't make that mistake twice.

4 days ago

SV_BubbleTime

Another vote here. MX keys and mouse and Linux Mint. Love it, set up once and have never touched it since.

4 days ago

jrm4

Came for this, I use it a lot as someone who has a ton of rando different logitech things.

One deal that I haven't dived into -- what is up with the ones that appear to limit how many times you can change devices? Is that real and not hackable?

3 days ago

coumbaya

Does anybody know if there is a way to remap the "gesture button" (thumb) to launch a .sh ? I've tried a dozen way without success, the only thing I can do is map the .sh to an actual gesture (button+scroll up) but I don't want to use gestures !

4 days ago

teekert

+1 for Solaar! Logitech should give them money because I would not buy Logitech without Solaar (I'm on Linux exclusively with an MX Master 3S and an MX Keys Keyboard... Crazily each with their own dongle :facepalm:

(Unifying receiver does not unify unifying and bolt so not so unifying eh! Oh and bolt is newer but not backwards compatible, so annoying!))

3 days ago

jacooper

Neither really worked for me on fedora. Ratbag can't see the mx master 3s and solar couldn't remap anything.

3 days ago

rounce

Did you install the Solaar udev rules?

3 days ago

kstrauser

Very cool, thanks!

In a similar vein, I've been using SteerMouse (https://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/) in the same way for many years, for the same reasons. Logi's hardware is nice, but their software just freaking sucks the electrons out of a battery. It's awful. I refuse to run their driver aka mini-OS just to do the right thing when I click a button with my thumb.

4 days ago

Groxx

I haven't had a Mac in about a year, but SteerMouse had been installed on all of them for well over a decade prior to that. Excellent software.

4 days ago

schnacki

BetterTouchTool has also recently added full Logitech support (keyboard & mouse) and it has been working great for me. (Fully replaces the Logitech Options+ and/or Ghub apps).

Especially the smooth scroll modifier available in BTT (not exclusive to Logitech mice) has helped me a lot, it transforms any mouses scroll events into trackpad like scrolling events that allow for e.g. page swipes, mail archive, scrolling in calendar etc. - things that usually only work with Magic Mouse or Apple Trackpads

4 days ago

jimmydoe

BTT also has nice gestures support for this which is a drop in replacement for options plus.

4 days ago

dvdplm

Thank you. I’m constantly baffled by the terrible quality of Logitech’s software. Such great hardware and such horrible software. Very much needed an oss alternative.

4 days ago

Retr0id

I'm also baffled by the quality of their hardware, their mice are all coated in a type of rubber that turns to goop after a few years.

4 days ago

Gigachad

I wish products would just give up on these rubberised materials. They always turn to goop over time. Unless it’s a part designed to be easily user replaced, just stick to hard plastic.

4 days ago

Sindisil

Huh. Haven't experienced that myself, having used a Master MX for several years (now in use by my wife), a VX Revolution for a few years before that (now my son's backpack mouse), and a Master MX Vertical most recently. My son has gone through several other Logi mice as his primary mice, too, but they've died of either worn out switches or feet (he's an avid gamer).

Not trying to invalidate your experience -- I've see with my own eyes a similar thing happen with rubberized coatings on laptops & keyboard wrist rests (other's not my own).

Just putting it out there that it's by no means the universal experience.

4 days ago

mikkupikku

They just don't make mice like they used to. I've been playing games with my intellimouse for the better part of 30 years. Baffles me when I hear of people blowing through several mice.

4 days ago

Retr0id

I have wondered if my skin oils are somehow naturally more caustic than average.

4 days ago

Onavo

I think they fixed it in their latest MX4, it's silicone (I think?) now instead of rubber.

https://www.reddit.com/r/logitech/comments/1nq2luo/got_the_m...

4 days ago

Retr0id

Damn, I replaced my MX2 with an MX3 fairly recently...

4 days ago

dugite-code

I had issues during COVID. The hand sanitizer and Hand Moisturizer seemed to be a brutal combom on my work MX mice.

Everyone had the horrid goop issue as well, you're not mad.

4 days ago

SparkyMcUnicorn

I use the g305, and have to replace it roughly once a year because the scroll button eventually stops working. I've been through 5-6 of them. Regularly on sale for around $25.

Wish I could find a better mouse I like as much as this one that I didn't need to pay a yearly subscription for. It's just the right size, lightweight, wireless, and being able to store the customizations to on board memory is nice.

4 days ago

knollimar

I just bind a different button for scroll. I use draftinf software where middle mouse pans and it wears after 2 to 3 months

3 days ago

w0m

humans are naturally slimy. Anything you touch for 8h/day will be slimy in turn. Some of us are slimier than others.

4 days ago

m463

not unique to logitech. This happens with my steelseries mice too. I have to clean them with alcohol or something.

4 days ago

elxr

> Such great hardware

Every other mouse brand I've used (razer, hyperx, reddragon, steelseries) has outlasted my logitech-G mice, and felt noticeably better built. Their keyboards are the most generic, nothing-special keyboards for any company of that size. They don't innovate.

I will never buy a logitech mouse/keyboard ever, especially with the options we have today.

It's so tiring hearing people praise their hardware when they've literally been outcompeted for a decade at this point. Their webcams, and other niche stuff (like flight sticks) may be fine, but their mice/keyboard are below average.

3 days ago

cromka

Interesting! Is there a good, ergonomic mouse that completes with Logitech's MX? I did hear they wear off quickly, which is why I never bought one, but I also never bothered to check for alternatives since everyone said MX is best by far.

3 days ago

elxr

I personally don't enjoy most ergonomic mice, almost entirely because of the weight.

I used to be the type of person that liked mice with >3 side buttons and programmable firmware and all that, with a shape that fit my hand, but lately I'm of the mindset that anything that can be done with a keyboard (or voice) should just be done on the keyboard.

I enjoy lightweight gaming-focused mice. Just anything cheap and light, and on the go, I just use my trackpad. Absolutely no reason to spend 90 bucks on a mouse unless you do most of your work on a mouse.

3 days ago

cromka

Fair enough! Thanks for your take.

2 days ago

Anamon

Nobody makes thumb trackballs as good as Logitech, or at least not anymore. And I have no complaints about the quality. I have three MX Ergos, replacing my previous Logitech trackballs that all lasted well over 10 years of daily use (the left click switches started getting iffy, but that's probably fixable, so I kept them).

I barely ever hear someone complain about the hardware quality of Logitech mice and keyboards, even before considering how much of them there are compared to Keychrons, Duckys, or all the gamer brands.

The MX Ergo form factor is the best, by the way. Few people go back to pushy-pully mice after they got a taste of how fast and precise they can be with a thumb trackball. I always find it interesting where I see them on TV or YouTube: medical laboratories, architectural offices, movie studios... and Louis Rossmann's desk. I've been using them since the 90s and they probably were an unfair advantage in FPS LAN parties =D

2 days ago

voltaireodactyl

Elecom gives them a run for their money thumb ball wise in my experience.

2 days ago

hrmtst93837

Plenty of people buy Logitech out of inertia or just because their devices are everywhere in retail so it's not really about build quality for them. If you care even a little about software customizability or not running weird vendor daemons on your system the alternatives tend to be less miserable to live with long-term.

Nobody sane is attached to their keyboard after the third time the RGB config stops working because of some cloud update or USB glitch anyway.

3 days ago

pineaux

Thats funny. I have a mx master 3 and its handsdown the best workmouse i have ever had. I work in strange places and the mouse works on every surface. Even glass, mirrors, server doors, skin, pants. I hate the app with a passion and use BTT.

3 days ago

tekla

I've been using my MX518 for 15 years. I have several stocked away when this dies.

3 days ago

elxr

That's one from the good old days. I was a full on logitech fan back then too, it's sad what the company has turned into.

3 days ago

jordand

A full FOSS replacement is absolutely necessary now. Options+ gets noticably worse every 6 months. The latest thing now is that every time you open it, a pop-up 'View available offers' Ad shows which (of course) you can't disable. The bloat is ridiculous given they embedded a whole additional GUI framework (Flutter) just for that AI Prompt builder many people don't want.

4 days ago

rldjbpin

depending on your os*, you may have a better experience with a first-party lightweight tool called onboard memory manager [1].

single binary, no install nor admin rights needed. let's you change keybinds and other mouse features.

*might be Windows-only

[1] https://support.logi.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360059641133-Onbo...

9 hours ago

gh123man

Funny timing, I've been working on essentially the same thing for Razer mice on macOS. I started this project because the basilisk v3 hyperspeed has no native mac OS support, and no documented bluetooth protocol, so I packet captured and reverse engineered it.

https://github.com/gh123man/OpenSnek

4 days ago

gzread

Mouser is an electronics supply company with a trademark.

3 days ago

Sytten

Trademark are always scoped to particular domains it is not universal, if you look up mouser you will see they listed the usage for electronic components, distribution and related. No mention of software. They might fight you since you do have to protect your trademark but in theory you could open a mouser restaurant and trademark that name for food distribution. As long as the customers is able to tell the difference it is fine.

3 days ago

rounce

Indeed, I think the main issue with the name is searchability.

3 days ago

matthewpick

When I saw the headline - I thought this article was about building a mouse from scratch using Mouser components. A little confusing using the same name.

3 days ago

ComputerGuru

Open source is the only way to go.

Out-of-the-box, most Linux distributions automatically report the battery status on my (admittedly ancient) Performance MX and I get a desktop notification when the battery is running low so I can run and swap the rechargeables, but I've found no way to do that on Windows (even with Logitech software).

4 days ago

IciGerbax

Geeky biais I feel but when I see "Mouser" I just think about the electronic online store xD

3 days ago

Sharlin

I just think about cats and Larry the Chief Mouser in particular.

3 days ago

kej

An update to the Logitech software last year added a fast way to access some kind of Logitech AI, but made it so the combination of mouse and dongle I was using no longer worked together. It was kind of a parable for the whole industry lately.

4 days ago

dnpls

This is amazing. I like the Logitech mouse + kbd that I have but the Logi apps are crap. At some point (not too long ago) I had to run TWO Logi apps because the newer one didn't have support for my keyboard. Mind you, it's some MX artsy-fartsy with the volume knob, so it's not old hardware. Also the app was awful, the volume knob didn't work right away, then the volume would go up and down some 5 minutes later on its own. I'll gladly get rid of the Logi apps ASAP.

3 days ago

srigi

The official SW on MacOS is somewhat usable if:

- you disable all communication with a firewall (so it doesn't autoupdate)

- `sudo pkill -9 LogiPluginService && sudo rm -rf /Applications/Utilities/LogiPluginService.app` (so it does not eat resources and don't run a useless service in the bg)

a day ago

touwer

LinearMouse on macos is also good. With Mos

4 days ago

varun_ch

The only way my Logitech MX Master mouse is remotely usable on macOS is with both linearmouse and mos, and that was really disappointing to me, because online, the MX Master mouse is sold as the best Mac mouse. Unbelievable that anyone actually uses it without those tweaks.

Without both, the mouse scroll wheel is so slow, laggy and imprecise. It’s unbelievably bad.

3 days ago

touwer

Hardware wise the mx3 is the best mouse for me. The software is dreadful though. It seems more like marketing than software. Nice pictures on the site. Not designed by a team that cares about good software. They should take mos and linearmouse as examples

9 hours ago

sys_64738

Love Linear Mouse.

4 days ago

dmarinus

oh nice! I hate it that you can't disable mouse acceleration in macOS.

3 days ago

wolrah

Currently only for MX Master 3S, for anyone with other Options-controlled mice getting their hopes up.

4 days ago

d3Xt3r

> Mouser

For a second I thought you were talking about the developer Mouser, who wrote a bunch of fantastic tiny and portable utilities for Windows[1].

[1] https://www.donationcoder.com/software/mouser

4 days ago

bigjay517

I find that Logi Options+ mostly just stays hidden and works. It does use more RAM than I'd like (125.8MB right now). When it does break it's disruptive, or they add some feature I don't want.

- AI Prompting (enabled by default)

- Auto update stuck wasting CPU cycles

- The recent certificate issue

I'd like to find a replacement because I am annoyed by it, but I have not found a replacement that matches ALL of the features I use from Options+.

I keep the default settings in Options+ but in my testing I can't match all the same behavior with the 3rd party solutions:

- Pointer acceleration

- Workspace switching speed

- Smooth scrolling speed / acceleration

Scrolling is usually my main problem where scrolling in one direction jumps in the wrong direction first before correcting. This is most noticeable when scrolling line by line.

I've tested all the 3rd party options mentioned here(with the exception of Mouser). Does anyone else have these problems with the 3rd party alternatives?

4 days ago

jordwest

I’ve been using the offline version of Options+ that somebody recommended me a while back, it removes AI and auto updating and has done the job for me.

It’s kind of hidden on their website but you can grab it here:

https://hub.sync.logitech.com/options/post/logi-options-offl...

That said I think this will be my last Logitech device. They’re just not very durable products and die too quickly

4 days ago

paularmstrong

Thanks for pointing this out. I had no idea it existed. The other options in the comments just didn't quite work the way I would like.

- The main topic requires me to pull python dependencies, build, run manually on Mac - All others can't reassign the button below the scroll wheel on the MX Master 3/4

4 days ago

itopaloglu83

I switched to the offline version right after Logitech forcefully and without my permission downloaded and installed bunch of crap software on my Mac. I was furious that a stupid mouse driver app has the right to install a random crapware. I’m still fuming about it when I remember it.

4 days ago

crooked-v

> It does use more RAM than I'd like (125.8MB right now).

For me it regularly ballooned to 1+ GB somehow, until I removed it entirely in favor of BetterMouse.

4 days ago

userbinator

125.8MB right now

20 years ago that would be insane (many machines still had only 512MB of RAM total), and "AI Prompting" sounds like satire, and yet this is the reality we're in now --- all that just to configure a mouse.

Personally my mouses don't need anything more than the OS' default settings.

4 days ago

hdgvhicv

My first machine with a mouse had 1 meg of ram. Mouse.sys was loaded into himem from memory and used something like 30kb of precious memory.

My first wheel mouse which looks exactly like my current mouse ran on my 4meg 486.

3 days ago

Anamon

Even back then we were looking for alternative mouse drivers with lower memory footprints, though =D some wouldn't load high (or not work im games when they were). Conventional memory was such a precious resource in DOS. With a bad mouse driver, you might've had to choose between having sound or mouse control in your game.

For emulated systems, I mostly use CuteMouse now, which occupies less than 4 kB. It sure would've been nice to have had that back in the day.

2 days ago

solarkraft

No mention of smooth scrolling? But that’s the entire reason to buy a Logitech mouse!

If this actually works well, I’m happy to say goodbye to Logi Options with its weird-ass electron-AI-login bullshit (just let me use my mouse, WTF).

4 days ago

coumbaya

For a minute I had hope this would work on linux. I'm using Solaar and it kind of works but I haven't managed to make it per-application, also the UI and rule editor is the most cryptic thing ever.

4 days ago

Lliora

Had the same updater burn 30% CPU on a Ryzen desktop last month. Traced it to the options+ auto-update service polling a dead CDN endpoint every 5s. Wrote a 20-line autohotkey script to remap the side buttons and uninstalled the whole suite. CPU went flat and the mouse still remembers DPI onboard.

3 days ago

armadyl

FYI Logitech also offers an air gapped version of Options+ which cuts out a lot of the slop and telemetry in the normal version: https://prosupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/10991109278871...

If you have to use Options that's probably the way to go (if none of the third party options work for you).

4 days ago

itopaloglu83

If you run it through command line you get some additional features you can turn off or selectively turn on.

I’m still pissed beyond words that they used the driver software as an excuse and installed crapware on my Mac when they released the AI version.

4 days ago

vladvasiliu

> Connection Bluetooth (USB receiver also works for basic buttons)

Why is there a difference between the two? On my MX Master 3S, I find the scroll wheel is… weird on Linux if I connect it via BT. It works fine with its dongle.

Why does the transport have such an effect on what seem like HID functions?

3 days ago

s_u_d_o

I usually work on several devices simultaneously, and having to lift, turn the mouse and press the button on the bottom to switch between devices has been a huge hurdle for me. Do you think we can achieve this device-switching mechanism, from within those 6 programmable keys instead? Or this is not possible?

4 days ago

rcarmo

This is pretty awesome - I have another Logitech mouse (the smaller, more pragmatic M720) and was looking for a way to ditch Logi Options+, which is insanely bloated for what it does. I suspect adapting this will take an hour or so with an LLM...

4 days ago

userbinator

Download → Mouser.zip (44 MB)

I smell LLM... and 44MB compressed for a mouse control panel applet (at least it's not an Electron app?) is still quite disturbing and a reminder of just how inefficient software has become.

4 days ago

bigyabai

The unzipped binary is 2.2mb, all the rest in Qt dependencies by the look of it.

44mb really isn't that offensive for a statically linked app anyhow.

4 days ago

userbinator

44MB is roughly the size of a Windows 95 installation.

3 days ago

bigyabai

Both Windows 95 and Mouser are statically linked to a complex UI framework.

If you can solve the cross-platform GUI problem without Electron, be my guest. This is a perfectly acceptable app size for a modern macOS or Windows system.

3 days ago

aneyadeng

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4 days ago

cozzyd

Mouser is where you buy ICs...

4 days ago

create-username

How can I disable the horizontal wheel? Not the one between the regular buttons but the one on top of the thumb.

It’s useless for me but no piece of software acknowledges my neurosis

3 days ago

bicepjai

If someone counting how many people hate logi tech mouse software, count me in too. But oddly enough I like their mouse hardware, specially the trackball

3 days ago

daveidol

Is there anything like this for the Logitech keyboards (eg MX Keys Mini)? I want to remap some keys there too but don’t want to run Options+

4 days ago

oliver66677

Same problem here. I have Wave Keys for Mac, and my girlfriend has the Wave Keys for Windows with reversed Fn and Ctrl. It’s a headache when I go to her place. I use Karabiner, but it doesn’t really swap them, and Logi Options+ doesn’t either obviously.

2 days ago

elxr

Use kanata (github.com/jtroo/kanata). It's software remapping and works on any keyboard (including built-in laptop keyboards).

Great docs, incredible feature set (literally 50x the capabilities of any logitech first party remapper), and very lightweight.

3 days ago

vardalab

Great job. I had to disable that logi sw software on my Macbook because it was taking up a lot of cycles.

3 days ago

pants2

Nice! Is there a similar option for Logitech Webcams?

4 days ago

abound

Came here looking for this. The Logi+ Options app is, as others have noted, less than stellar. I just want to control the zoom, flip, and coloring on my MX Brio.

4 days ago

throwaway85825

Options+ is such trash. It still doesnt support changing input of the mouse when you change input of the keyboard.

3 days ago

Gigachad

I wonder if this or anything else can pair devices to the unifying receiver. That’s the only reason I ever use the Logitech app.

4 days ago

gonzus

Solaar?

4 days ago

pprotas

Another alternative (apparently the Logi software is so bad that it spawned many of these): BetterMouse. It supports my MX Master 4 https://better-mouse.com/

4 days ago

dawnerd

The readme is right from ai. How much of the app was ai coded? Asking honestly.

3 days ago

lwhi

I dumped my Logitech MX Vertical mouse because of that lousy software.

This seems like a great idea.

4 days ago

atonse

Try SteerMouse. Been using it with my MX 3 for years.

4 days ago

smaili__

For macos you can use also better-touch-tool https://docs.folivora.ai/docs/normal-mouse/logitech/#example... which is an amazing app.

I hate that mx still doesn't install a small board to save your configuration, and not force you to open a crappy software which eats ram unnecessarily. Seems like they need data more than the convenience of consumers.

2 days ago

dbg31415

The features I want are the macro builder from Razer, and chords.

4 days ago

anonymous344

this needs to be make to all logitech sh1tware! g402, great mouse, but the app is running node and sending who knows what

3 days ago

joshu

how is it that logitech software is such awful trash

4 days ago

elxr

Because people keep buying their generic hardware, and random youtubers keep recommending their stuff.

How about we just stop buying anything logitech. What other peripheral company has squandered their resources as much as they have, completely refusing to innovate?

3 days ago

Razengan

Missed opportunity to call it Jerry

4 days ago

joemi

Might still be worth it considering Mouser (the electronics supplier) is already a (pretty big) thing.

4 days ago

jbrooks84

Logi software is so bad

4 days ago

TutleCpt

Fyi, no Linux.

3 days ago

johnhamlin

So no Linux?

4 days ago

fix4fun

Nice project. Respect :)

I worry only how long it will be supported? I hope there will be small community maintaining it ;)

Once again nice project and good luck.

4 days ago