ReactOS Shows Improved Stability and 64-Bit Support at Chemnitz Linux Days 2026

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1/21/1970
a day ago
by jeditobe

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mrbluecoat

> Of course it BSODed a few times, but a simple reboot later I was able to continue.

Not sure what concerns me more, the "BSOD" or "Of course".

a day ago

prmoustache

its goal is to be a fully compatible version of NT5 no?

a day ago

haolez

On a side note, _in the context of workstations_, I wonder if a hypothetical OS that reimplements the Windows APIs (like ReactOS, but with perfect modern hardware support) would be better for end users than a Linux distro with a modern DE.

In the past, this hypothetical OS would be a revolution. But I feel that, in recent years, this gap is not as big anymore and Linux supports way more apps than in the past. Such an OS might even not be relevant anymore, even if it exists.

Do I have a blind spot on this? Is there value in having a "working ReactOS" as of 2026 _for workstations_?

a day ago

aleph_minus_one

> Is there value in having a "working ReactOS" as of 2026 _for workstations_?

The ideas behind the NT kernels are much deeper than what many Linux fans think of it. Just to give some examples:

- the NT kernel is build around supporting multiple subsystems, even though currently only "1.5" are in active use: the Windows subsystem and WSL1 (the latter has for many purposes been replaced by WSL2)

- the NT kernel is not built around "everything is a file" (a very leaky and very incompletely implemented abstraction that is used in GNU/Linux); instead the central concept is the handle

- the I/O in NT kernel is built around the idea that the API is "completion-oriented" instead of being "readiness-oriented" as in Linux. This manifests in concepts like I/O Completion Ports (IOCPs), Overlapped I/O, ... Since this is a deeply technical topic, I refer to https://speakerdeck.com/trent/parallelism-and-concurrency-wi... (the most important information is in the backup slides (slides 43-54)).

a day ago

mghackerlady

For a better implementation of everything being a file, Plan 9 and inferno come pretty close to literally everything being a file.

a day ago

MisterTea

- the NT kernel is not built around "everything is a file" ... instead the central concept is the handle

File descriptor, handle. Potayto, potahto.

a day ago

aleph_minus_one

> File descriptor, handle. Potayto, potahto.

Under Windows, a lot more concepts are handles than just files, directories, symbolic links, pipes, mail slots, ..., e.g.

- processes, threads

- synchronization objects (mutex, semaphore)

- events (CreateEventEx)

- I/O Completion Ports

- Sections (ZwCreateSection) and Partitions (https://www.geoffchappell.com/studies/windows/km/ntoskrnl/ap... ) for memory

- waitable timers

- GUI components (HWND)

a day ago

nineteen999

And you can also argue that that's overengineered (the original NT design docs were posted on here a while ago), that the UNIX model (while much more primitive and simplified) has proven more successful in the real world, and that the original "clean, overengineered" NT design has been buried under a progressively bigger truckload of crap year upon year and is no longer as clean as it once was.

12 hours ago

aleph_minus_one

> the original "clean, overengineered" NT design has been buried under a progressively bigger truckload of crap year upon year and is no longer as clean as it once was.

The original UNIX model has (considering the current state of GNU/Linux) similarly buried under a progressively bigger truckload of crap year upon year and is no longer as clean as it once was.

A central difference is: the NT kernel stayed rather clean (the crapload rather happened in the Windows subsystem).

12 hours ago

MisterTea

I should have mentioned that I am speaking from a Plan 9 point of view where some of the common mechanisms are provided via the kernel file servers such as /proc.

a day ago

remexre

pidfd, eventfd, AF_NETLINK, epoll, memfd, timerfd?

a day ago

Philpax

You may be interested in https://loss32.org/

a day ago

haolez

This is pretty damn cool.

a day ago

flohofwoe

IMHO with a couple of fixes which allow Linux+Wine to better simulate some specific lowlevel Windows behaviours (like this one recently in the news: https://www.xda-developers.com/wine-11-rewrites-linux-runs-w...)... a Linux distro with a 'Windows personality' (e.g. running Windows Explorer as desktop) should be pretty much indistinguishable from native Windows.

In the end it's all about driver diversity and quality though...

a day ago

dmitrygr

> should be pretty much indistinguishable from native Windows

PRO: less telemetry

CON: less battery life

a day ago

seszett

Wouldn't that just be Linux with Wine? It would be less effort to implement further APIs/fix incompatibilities on Wine rather than reimplement a new OS from scratch.

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bombcar

SteamOS but for more than just games, perhaps?

a day ago

jeditobe

Photos and videos from the event: https://photos.app.goo.gl/1LrSoM4qNecdmpqh6

a day ago

wg0

I have the feeling that this OS might become to Windows what Linux became to Unix.

a day ago

mghackerlady

People have hoped that for a long while but sadly I don't ever see that happening

a day ago

guerrilla

Well, I think we need that considering the directions MS wants to go in. Windows isn't even usable for the people who don't hate it anymore.

a day ago

nix0n

Driver support seems to me like it could be an advantage over Linux.

Does anyone here know the current state of installing a browser on ReactOS?

a day ago

mghackerlady

I think it has WINEs browser which is webkit based

a day ago

ForLoveOfCats

Wine's recreation of MSHTML is based on Gecko from Firefox

https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/Gecko

a day ago

dmitrygr

ReactOS is a labour of love and it is heartwarming to see it progress. For more than a decade I lived with the dream of switching to it fulltime from Windows on my personal hardware. Alas, it was not to be, as apple silicon appeared and provided me with an immediate good-battery-life-and-not-Microsoft option.

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MORPHOICES

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