Cursor Camp
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bko
p0w3n3d
yup
onehair
clearly xD
LorenDB
Well, clearly you and I have made it out alive :)
SamBam
I only managed to get out once I had earned all 9 badges...
swyx
ah so you havent discovered the secret 10th badge yet, have you
Adsss
how do you get it if you don't mind me asking?
swyx
made it up to troll people
ebipaul5194
Where I can see the badges
krackers
the book on the coffee table inside the house
johnfn
This is so good! Using mouse motion as a control scheme is particularly genius - how did no one think of this before? I particularly like the points where the mouse control is taken away from you, i.e. when you float downstream, or when you go down a slide. It's also particularly genius how the mouse can 'teleport' around the screen (i.e. when you go into a door and come out somewhere else).
This idea could even be taken further - it would be really cool to have terrain that is more difficult to traverse. I'm also intrigued by the lack of walls. I think something like a hedge maze would be really fun!
aeonfox
> Using mouse motion as a control scheme is particularly genius - how did no one think of this before?
Point-and-click adventure games and the golden age of Macromedia Flash might be before your time? This really reminds me of novelty sites built in Flash which was all point and click and vector animation. A lot of those sites are lost to time, or perhaps hidden in some deep crevice of the web archive.
> I particularly like the points where the mouse control is taken away from you
One thing Flash couldn't do. But it had plenty of RCE exploits, so maybe it could.
mNovak
I think the water is difficult to traverse, in that it slows you down when 'swimming'.
It's really interesting how it still feels grounded even though you can fly all around. Having the cursor disappear underneath bridges and behind buildings really helps the illusion.
pixelmelt
There was an old game called cursors.io which was the same concept but collaboratively traversing a maze where you would sometimes have to leave other players behind to reach the next level
munificent
When you go all the way to the top near the horizon, the cursor shrinks and moves more slowly as it recedes into the distance.
Genius.
DrSiemer
A random experiment I made a few weeks ago does something similar, but it only uses the real cursor position for now: https://2shine.nl/demo/mousemaze/
latexr
Badge Guide (to avoid spoilers, encoded with rot13¹):
* Cannonball!: Tb ba gur qvivat obneq va gur cbby. Fbhgurnfg sebz gur fgnegvat cbfvgvba.
* Treasure Hunter: Teno n zrgny qrgrpgbe gura frnepu arne gur yrsg fvqr bs gur ibyyrlonyy svryq. Abegujrfg sebz gur fgnegvat cbfvgvba.
* Goal!: Fpber n tbny jvgu gur fbppre onyy. Fbhgurnfg sebz gur fgnegvat cbvag.
* S'more Please: Teno n znefuznyybj sebz gur ohpxrg naq chg gurz va gur ovt sver. Gnxrf nobhg gra frpbaqf. Abegurnfg sebz gur fgnegvat cbvag.
* Cat Person: Crg gur png va gur ubhfr. Abegujrfg arne gur fgnegvat cbvag.
* Take a Seat: Fvg ba gjb punvef.
* Slide!: Tb ba gur ovt fyvqr. Rnfg sebz gur fgnegvat cbvag.
* Beachcomber: Svaq nyy gur frnfuryyf.
* Green Thumb: Jngre gur irtrgnoyrf. Fbhgujrfg arne gur fgnegvat cbvag.
why_at
Is there anything to the weird book in the treehouse or is it just for flavor? It seems to be alluding to something but I can't figure it out.
krackers
There's mention of the cave and a "convergence point". I tried looking all around the cave, but there doesn't seem to be anything there (although you can find the drawings on the walls)
Edit: I looked at the source though and I don't see anything else clickable in the cave... No hidden secret badge either, maybe it is just for ambiance.
latexr
Turning the antenna in the treehouse gives different messages of about two minutes each. It’s a bit hard to listen to the whole thing without someone else interrupting by changing the antenna, so here are the audio files:
https://neal.fun/cursor-camp/sounds/harold-1.mp3
https://neal.fun/cursor-camp/sounds/harold-2.mp3
There’s talk of the tent near the beach, the gong, and gathering at the big fire once you hear the call. There’s also talk of the cave, the star map, trusting the bats, and reading the right side of the book carefully. Though it seems to me the audio may be outdated and that the star map was initially in the book and was since moved to the telescope.
The right side of the book mentions the time 8:47.
If we look at the star map, only two of them are pointing inwards. If we consider that a “convergence point”, it should be around the area of the big fire and tent.
That’s as far as I’ve got with this.
krackers
>look at the star map,
here's the star map fwiw https://neal.fun/cursor-camp/optimized/maps/telescope.webp, there's a convergence point already labeled.
And for reference here's the map of the camp: https://neal.fun/cursor-camp/optimized/maps/treehouse.webp
Why do you say the point corresponds with the fire, to me it seems closer to the dance studio
why_at
Hmm this is interesting. I was playing on mute so I didn't notice the radio messages.
I was thinking the "convergence point" was the center of camp with the sign since that's where all the paths meet up and the book mentions something about that. The radio also says "I just put a sign on it".
>it seems to me the audio may be outdated and that the star map was initially in the book and was since moved to the telescope
He also mentions he wrote it in 1967 but the book says 1987
notsylver
There's also a locked door in one of the buildings, but I couldn't figure out what either mean if anything. It would be cool if the radio was used for something though
krackers
Yeah I saw that too, but the list of all accessible rooms is also in the code and the only scenes I see are
default
sauna
tent
cave
treehouse
house-main
house-cafeteria
house-bedroom
house-trophey
boat
telescope
latexr
The radio in the treehouse might be relevant. See my sibling comment.
nickvec
Why not encode the badge names as well in rot13?
mh-
They've been encoded twice for extra protection.
mmahd7456
Nice!
latexr
Because then you’d need to decode the full message and might read something you didn’t mean to. This way you can decode just the individual ones you want.
The badge names aren’t secret, they’re available in the book in the house even before you unlock them.
lgas
Could just include the badge names both unencoded and encoded to get the best of both worlds.
steve_adams_86
The encoding is too advanced
KerrickStaley
I love this! It reminds me of https://cursordanceparty.com/ which was built by a friend about 15 years ago and is still online :)
quantummagic
With Firefox, moving the cursor is really unresponsive and difficult, at least with my touch-pad. Taking many swipes to move even a little bit in each direction. It's a much more enjoyable experience with Chrome.
testfrequency
This is why I could never commit to a Gecko based browser. There’s just too many daily sites I don’t have the patience to debug if it’s me or them.
maccard
I've used Firefox as a daily driver for 20 years now (that's terrifying to say). I have to switch to another browser about once a month (although at a previous job I had to use $INTERNAL_WEBSITE in edge permanently). I have 0 issues with daily sites
testfrequency
20 years of Firefox consistent use is actually impressive. Thank you for your service!
maccard
I was indoctrinated as a teenager. A friends older brother was using it when he showed me World of Warcraft (not a euphamism) and I went home and downloaded it and never looked back.
I've contributed to a bunch of OSS, but for some reason never firefox.
TonyStr
Haha, this is hardly a daily site, is it? I can't remember the last time I experienced a firefox-specific browser issue before this. 95%+ of my issues usually come from ublock
testfrequency
No doubt, OP’s site is niche (and very cool!), but between weird graphical rendering I’ve experienced in the past with Firefox and WebGL, among a number of just flat out broken forms - I just gave up.
I want Gecko to succeed as Chromium being a bully in the web space has been unfortunate, though I’m even more rooting for Ladybird.
ForHackernews
Designed For Chromenet Explorer 6.0
whamlastxmas
Firefox has years long outstanding bugs in regards to capturing cursor movements. It's really frustrating as someone who has spent years developing Babylon and three.js games and apps and uses FF as my primary browser. It basically makes Firefox completely unusable if you're relying on capturing cursors.
Orygin
No issue on FF Macos with a touchpad
rendaw
Me too, mouse.
tikimcfee
I had fun on the internet again. Thank you internet people <3
chrisshroba
This is such a breath of fresh air. I feel like I'm back on Club Penguin!
fatthor123
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danielrmay
Brilliant. If you needed proof the internet is still alive, here you go. I feel like Neal's creations are the result of creatively iterating on "what if" and "why not".
accCer
It was fun rick rolling you all on the piano. Vibe coded a little script that would play all kinds of melodies including rick roll. I eventually attracted a whole audience of cursors emoji reacting to it.
Nautman
I think it's incredible that you can feel a human connection with someone on the other side of the world purely by moving your cursors together. Just had a "game" of soccer with random people.
Well done, Neal!
hadrien01
I'm really watching 12 Angry Men through a small window in a wonderfully cute browser game, I love it!
jbombadil
I think there's a case for a corporate class action lawsuit against Neal for employee productivity loss every time every time a new game is published.
latexr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest
> There is an urban myth that the release of Dragon Quest III caused a law to be passed in Japan banning the sale of Dragon Quest games or video games in general except on certain days such as weekends or national holidays. When III was released in Japan, over 300 schoolchildren were arrested for truancy while waiting in stores for the game to be released. The rumor claims there was a measurable dip in productivity when a Dragon Quest game was released and although muggings of Dragon Quest titles became so widespread that there were hearings in the Japanese Diet, no law was ever passed.
Aeolun
Arrested for truancy?
LeoPanthera
Truancy is a crime in many countries, including the USA.
buzzerbetrayed
An offense, sure. But it’s not a “crime” in the US.
thayne
Not for the student. But at least in some states, parents can potentially face jail time if their children miss enough school.
portmanteur
Kamala Harris bragged about enforcing this law against parents in California. That’s the only way that I know that it’s an actual law that gets enforced because I had never heard of laws like this before, and I grew up in US public schools in the South.
Gigachad
I seem to remember some similar discussion about when google put pacman in the google doodle.
0x3444ac53
Lmao it's blocked on my corporate wifi
echelon
That's a crime. Your HR/IT are certifiably not fun.
swyx
dont make them the scapegoats. who was it that said "behind every rule on that wall is an idiot who made it necessary"
only-one1701
Found the manager
andrew_lettuce
Never Let common sense and trust do the job when another policy in the employee handbook can do the job!
mghackerlady
same :(
rohitpaulk
Nice one. Pleasantly surprised that this has nothing to do with Cursor the IDE
lacoolj
Lol Zed > Cursor but this Cursor > Zed
TheGRS
Well this is one of the most adorable things I've seen in a while. Thank you for sharing a little joy. So many little details I love, falling off the waterfall, the cursor size fading into the background, the flashlight in the cave. Haven't explored it all but going to share this right away.
fatthor123
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bhresko1
I absolutely love this. Kind of gives me Club Penguin vibes.
jborichevskiy
I got taken back to Club Penguin as well. Especially clicking into the cave or treehouse and getting transported into a little side pocket of the map. Amazing work!
sprinkly-dust
Club Penguin always held a special place in my heart but I never reflected on why. I'm sure part of it is a yearning for simpler times and a childhood unawareness of the nature of the world.
However, playing this reminded me of exploring hidden parts of a map imbued with love, the joys of finding other souls just lounging around or moving excitedly, and the cute little games and things strewn about every corner.
dtmooreiv
100%, briefly playing this brought me right back to that for a second. I'm glad others felt that same vibe.
nzeid
I'm a huge neal.fun fan but I still worried that this was some scammy LLM coding YouTube clickbait.
Love the joystick for mobile users.
ebbi
So much fun! I ended up playing beach volleyball with a bunch of people from around the world! :D excellent!
fatthor123
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ebbi
Unfortunately it's the start of my work day so I had to force myself to close the tab! Will give it another go after work...
SamBam
Find treasure hunting equipment on the beach...
RandomXD
This way you can hit the ball harder and farther.
Press Ctrl+Shift+J to open the console and if you are on Mac command+option+J Then write the code: (function() { let power = 20; // Upward thrust force let clickMultipler = 15; // How many clicks does it launch per move
console.log("--- ASCENDING PROPELLER MODE ---"); console.log("Hover your mouse over the ball to launch it into space.");
document.addEventListener('mousemove', (e) => { // We calculate a point directly below the cursor.
// Clicking "below" the ball pushes it upwards. const fakeY = e.clientY + power;
for(let i = 0; i < clickMultipler; i++) { const ev = new MouseEvent('mousedown', { clientX: e.clientX, clientY: fakeY, bubbles: true, cancelable: true, view:window });
// We look for the object in its current position so that the impact //counts const target = document.elementFromPoint(e.clientX, e.clientY); if (target) { target.dispatchEvent(ev); } } }, true); })();
deweywsu
SO much better than the metaverse, at 1/1000000th the cost!
pcthrowaway
The most unrealistic thing is that the cat doesn't chase the mice around.
CatMustard
Had a lot of fun on the right side of the map lol.
Anyone else find the left side of the map causes the framerate to drop down to 15ish for some reason? Very odd, completely smooth otherwise. Firefox Android browser.
kang
I saw this experiment decades ago on the internet and it was to a music concert, i always wanted to do a cursor moshpit
tokioyoyo
Reminded me of Club Penguin days.
topherjaynes
Well, lads, 10 laps, been a day, going to sleep.
ggambetta
This is so well made! In the car racing track there's an overpass, and the cursor correctly Z-orders depending on whether you're coming from the upper or lower part of the track. Respect.
tschwimmer
Does anyone know how he is implementing country detection? I'm certain it's not GeoIP since my current IP address (and physical location) is different than the country it's showing me from.
ivanjermakov
IP location, browser's locale, or combination of both: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Refe...
flexagoon
GeoIP services can sometimes be wrong, they are essentially just lookup tables for IP subnets. I have a VPS in the Netherlands which most GeoIP providers detect as being in Czechia, for example. I assume whichever one the site is using just has the wrong country listed for your IP.
jp0d
It's the same for me. I'm in Australia and on my work laptop I'm connected to an American VPN. It's showing my location as USA. I was wondering how it's detecting the country.
8bitbeep
Very cool, but I think the user's cursor should be a different shape/color from the others. I frequently tried to move a neighboring cursor by mistake.
ceroxylon
When I see the domain of a post is neal.fun, I instantly get a huge grin because I know I am about to be delighted. Thank you Neal! The beach yurt with the mushroom soup was a hilarious touch.
bitwize
When I was a teenager we had the Living Books edition of Arthur's Teacher Trouble on CD-ROM as part of a "multimedia kit". Every page had short animations that would play by clicking on random things with your cursor, in addition to following along with the story, clicking on single words to hear them pronounced and spelled, etc. It was incredible and paved the way for similar phenomena like clickable Easter eggs in Homestar Runner cartoons.
This reminded me of that.
DonHopkins
Like Rodney's Wonder Window, the Probe and Poke Pet Shop, with the dog who poops when you click on him enough!
https://youtu.be/z5GMk8dgaD0?t=1498
Rodney Alan Greenblat:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Alan_Greenblat
Rodney is the same artist who did the delightful hybrid 2d/3d graphics designs for Parappa the Rapper:
kami23
This reminds me of the old internet for some reason I can't really nail down, but maybe the club penguin-ess of it.
greengreengrass
Came to say the say thing. Strong Club Penguin feeling as soon as I saw that “off duty” sign on the lifeguard tower
0xferruccio
Incredibly well done by Neal as usual!! Always has new fun experiments that are always completely new concepts
throw5
I really had fun with this one. You know what would make it even cosier? Being able to choose a small avatar for ourselves. The mouse pointer as your icon feels a very impersonal at the moment. Having avatars would make it feel more like we're all hanging out together in this wonderland.
stronglikedan
It's not what you asked for, but right click to choose an enhanced icon. (EDIT: Oops that appears to just be a temporary emoticon)
devilbunny
You can put the hat on. It's in the main camp building in a bedroom. Your cursor will be wearing a hat from then on.
ZeWaka
You can also put other clothes on, like sunglasses and shorts.
devilbunny
Can you don multiple items? Didn't try.
krackers
Yeah you can. You buy them with seashells.
only-one1701
He's done it again folks
lucy_hnatchuk
genuinely had a blast,felt like being a kid on a playground again.
ultratalk
Strangely enough, when I enter the "convergence point" book, my cursor gets an American flag, even though it wasn't American before. Has anyone else seen this?
RobOsTheGreat
Hello there! I'm new to this Cursor Camp! How is everything going? What did I miss?
RugnirViking
pretty hard to click through the cookie consent form because the browser hijacks the mouse and doesnt let it move to the right place. ended up using tab to click through it.
pred_
And the cookie consent form is one of those that require you to click a gazillion toggles. Hasn't it been established now that opt-out must be no harder than opt-in?
RugnirViking
the law unambiguously says that, yes. However, companies these days seem to respond to enforcement, not the text of the law. They are all using the same few cookie banner libraries/providers, so that they have herd protection (if the eu wants to crack down on it, it has to do it to hundreds/thousands of companies simultaneously). It seems neal chose that route also.
npw55036
That's awesome! It seems like all the rooms are accessible, but the football area is a bit laggy; the interaction feels like there's a lot of delay.
0x0ffff
That's brilliant, at first I thought it was about with Neal Wu's site. but nah actually it turns out that it's just a cursor game!
victorbjorklund
Really cool. Sucks that they have to have the cookie banners though. I feel like this could have been done without user tracking in that way.
zhainya
This probably would have been fun if it worked.
latexr
Clearly it is working for many people. Perhaps if you share your setup and what exactly is the issue you’re facing, someone may have a suggestion. “It doesn’t work” is just about the worse “bug report” one can make.
amenghra
Reminds me of the era of flash games/applets. People were building lots of cute, interactive stories back then.
thatguymike
Well this is incredibly joyful, well done.
deviantony
I love Neal's creations so much !
xnx
Any tips for getting the right-click menu to work with a touchpad?
I two-finger tap, but the menu immediately disappears.
52-6F-62
Click + hold. Then move onto an option
xnx
Argh. No luck.
52-6F-62
:(
bovermyer
I loved the impromptu dance party I had in this with a bunch of people just bouncing on the stage.
Jordan-117
Weirdly, this seems to kill my wifi connection after a minute or so (Firefox on Linux).
eranation
Just spent 20 minutes of my life, I don't want them back, was worth every second.
darshanmakwana
This is awesome! Where can I find the music from the DJ booth? I can listen to that all day
latexr
For the beach volleyball, aim to click only when the ball is in its downward trajectory.
onemoresoop
Fun intrusion. Works pretty good on my phone though it’s got really hot.
nickvec
The depth of this project is amazing. So many details that you can click into!
qainsights
I thought cursor.com camp :)
dakolli
NO AI !
lacoolj
Bug report. If i click a book on the phone my pseudo cursor goes away! :(
buremba
I don't usually like my cursor to be hijacked but man, I like this one.
asadm
I wonder whats the multiplayer stack here. I haven't looked yet.
WillieCubed
The art style here is really charming. Thanks for the whimsy today!
wellthisisgreat
Cursor brethren, why y u no join me on my pink flamingo expedition
rollyboo
A really enjoyable journey ;) Felt like a kid again, cheers!
tiffanyh
Cool, but wow - my iPhone heats up super fast while on that site.
nerdsniper
The last seashell is eluding me. Otherwise I got all the badges.
lbebber
Near the title sign, on the center of the camp, is where I found the last one I missed
fatthor123
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_air
Grab a metal detector to the left of the volleyball court. Then hold it near the bottom left edge of the court
SamBam
You need to stop spamming this message. This isn't Reddit.
parentheses
Legit first post I've wanted to upvote in a long time.
idk1
Well, that was absolutely delightful. What a tonic.
null_ptr1
Ok, that's super cute. Dance on the dance floor!
huseyinkeles
Really love all his work!
Check out the Space Elevator or Size of Life too.
antdke
That was a lot of fun. Brought back some nostalgia :)
asimovDev
I love the cave paintings of cursor cavepeople
Ancalagon
I couldn't find the last sea shell :(
spking
Touch virtual grass
dylkil
Weirdly i got slight motion sickness from this
mattlondon
Yeah same here - unexpected!
fatthor123
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janmagnusdev
Anyone else having performance problems?
neurowave
Nice use of Rive!
hmokiguess
Sorry, what's Rive?
neurowave
Interactive engine for building apps, games, products with lots of motion https://rive.app
hmokiguess
Thanks! Didn’t know about it, looks fun
lovegrenoble
Thank you for productivity loss, Neal!
structuredPizza
We have achieved world peace, fanks Neal :)
GrifMD
That was delightful, what more can I say?
madebysnacks
So engaging! Made me smile the entire time
wg0
I thought its the 60 billion dollars one.
otar
Very cute and funny! Thank you!
andrethegiant
Absolutely incredible. Well done Neal
melonpan7
It even works on mobile, brilliant.
biosubterranean
This is great
bob_backwards
Arm-less nun, somehow pushing a wheelchair, holding a rabbi, carrying a military baby, eating spaghetti.
SlackingOff123
I can't get the 17th shell :(
alstonite
SPOILER
the two that are hard to find are 1. by the river on the far left and 2. at the main spawn point
bl4ckneon
One is kinda half hidden behind a tree on the far right and another one is next to the starting sign. The rest are on the beach area and very slightly off the beach area
fatthor123
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SlackingOff123
No, I don't think so.
matsbjork
Best cursor camp ive seen!
BrunoBernardino
Remember to have fun, people!
benjian
coolest website i've seen in a while! absolutely loving this!
ygyooo
That is so interesting!
ebipaul5194
Nice game this is my first if able to add name that will be grate
dartharva
Genuinely amazing!
mindwork
neal.fun is the bestest place on the internet
knight_47
This is so neat!
nkmnz
This was fun!
peyo25
Fun! Thanks!
hmokiguess
awww man that was fun!
arikrahman
I'm happily disappointed this has nothing to do with a certain electron based code editor fork.
lanewinfield
Really putting the "fun" in "Neal.fun." Yet another amazing work by Neal Agarwal.
dadima
nice fun game
subpar
firefly! iykyk
ondrek
This is the reason I love Hckrnews.
ChicagoBoy11
This is utterly delightful. Thank you.
sph
Another certified neal.fun banger
leadgenman
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iqfareez
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soupspaces
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fatthor123
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botzi2001
I think this you need to take the metal detector from the beach and search in the area
fatthor123
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frankfrank13
brother how many times are you gonna comment that
forsakenharmony
please don't re-implement mouse movement, this would work perfectly fine without and now it just feels really bad to use because my sensitivity is fucked
sgtlaggy
My mouse is set to 400 DPI, acceleration off (libinput flat profile), and default (0) sensitivity (range -1.0 - 1.0, no change at 1.0). Had similar settings on Windows, games have crazy high default sensitivity but websites like this have extremely low sensitivity. I had to crank my DPI up to 2000 to make it usable and 4000 to be comfortable and roughly match desktop settings, but this also made the cursor extremely unwieldy when pausing the game. This and volume control are my biggest gripes.
dag11
The soul of this game requires that your cursor can go "behind" things (like trees, or partially submerged in water), can have subtle nudges to keep you on paths and add friction when in water, and also to be able to take full control of your cursor for the lazy river etc!
Macha
Yeah, whatever bug they have with this affected me two, was swinging my mouse across most of my desk to move any distance whatsoever.
duderific
I noticed this on Safari, but when I switched to Chrome it seemed fine.
fatthor123
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asadm
except thats the whole point of this game. mouse movement needs to be controlled by the game here!
I like that this is on the front page and there are no comments. I imagine because everyone is busy exploring and didn't yet go back to the comments to see what people think. Good sign!