The Frog for Whom the Bell Tolls

42 points
1/21/1970
2 days ago
by anujbans

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chasil

'While game’s title is a reference to “For Whom the Bell Tolls” by Ernest Hemingway...'

This is actually much, much older than Hemingway.

  No man is an island,
  Entire of itself.
  Each is a piece of the continent,
  A part of the main.
  If a clod be washed away by the sea,
  Europe is the less.
  As well as if a promontory were.
  As well as if a manor of thine own
  Or of thine friend's were.
  Each man's death diminishes me,
  For I am involved in mankind.
  Therefore, send not to know
  For whom the bell tolls,
  It tolls for thee.

  --John Donne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Donne
2 days ago

gjm11

Donne was a poet (a very good poet, at that) but this particular passage is from a bit of devotional prose, not a poem, and I think it's misleading to format it as if it were poetry. Especially as it's quite unlike the style of Donne's poetry.

2 days ago

chasil

I pulled it from this source. Perhaps they are amenable to your insights?

https://www.yourdailypoem.com/listpoem.jsp?poem_id=2118

2 days ago

graemep

Thea article says the title is a reference to Hemingway, but Hemingway's use of it was a reference to John Donne. The latter is far more familiar to me. Its no more relevant to the game though.

2 days ago

jaccola

Indeed, the same meditation that originated the phrase ‘no man is an island’.

Though, of course, the better version is “Ask not for whom the timer ticks. It ticks for thee”

2 days ago

barrowclift

What serendipity, I've just begun my own play through a few days ago after having learned of the game (as most of those in North America have) through the Link's Awakening cameo. It's thoroughly charming, makes me sad it never enjoyed a proper release outside of Japan.

If any readers here have an interest in retro gaming or (like me) loved Link's Awakening back in the day, I highly recommend giving it a look.

2 days ago

SethMLarson

Woah, that's awesome!! Enjoy :)

2 days ago

Oarch

From the title I'd assumed this was a mixed metaphor between boiling the frog and facing impending doom.

Maybe I need to stop AI doomscrolling for a bit.

2 days ago

nitefood

What amazes me is I thought the exact same thing, verbatim. And I hadn't thought about that boiling frog in years. I guess it scarred you and me both when we saw it.

2 days ago

Cpoll

"Boiling the frog" is a common idiom for making a negative change slowly enough that no-one reacts. It perhaps comes from the (incorrect) notion that if you add a frog to water and bring it to a boil very gradually, it won't notice.

11 hours ago

bryanrasmussen

I just thought it was going to be a funny mashup of For Whom The Bell Tolls (Hemingway) with Michigan T. Frog (Looney Tunes)

2 days ago

CM30

Oh hey, it's the game I remember from the cameos in Link's Awakening and the Wario Land series. Honestly, I don't think anyone associates Mad Scienstein with this game anymore, given his appearances in Wario Land 3, 4 and Dr Mario 64.

2 days ago

jezzamon

For me personally this is one of my all time favourite games. It has a lot of charm and humour.

It looks like it's a zelda-like game, but because combat is deterministic rather than skill-based, it's really more of a puzzle game

2 days ago

ginko

It's a really fun little game with lots of character. I played the translation and picked up an original copy on my last trip to Japan.

2 days ago

ralfd

> despite a few twists at the end: the Princess does not escape her fate

Which is? What fate?

2 days ago

SethMLarson

You'll have to play to find out ;) haha!

2 days ago